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Coronavirus (COVID-19) is too exciting for adults to discuss (CLOSED)

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Anyone who has lived in or has visited Honolulu has likely gone to one of these four bars at least once. They've been here since before I first got here in '86. The owner will likely lose his house and life savings because we have a fuck yard gnome for a governor.

“I am a 67 year old resident of Oahu who has operated four of Honolulu's most popular pubs, bars and nightclubs for 20-plus years, including Kelley O'Neil's, Irish Rose Saloon, Anna O’Brien’s and O’Toole’s, all in Honolulu.

“I run a good, organized operation, with the prior month’s sales covering all expenses from pay, healthcare and pension to all vendors, utilities and taxes paid monthly, on time and with no debt.

“When the mayor and governor issued their shelter-in-place orders in March, I closed all operations on March 18 for the health and safety of my customers and employees.

“However, due to the locally ordered closures, I have zero income. I received the PPP loan for two-and-a-half months’ expenses, but cannot utilize it with the forgiveness grant due to .... Hawaii’s high cost of commercial rent and utilities. Thus, I remain closed with a loan that will get me only one month rent without forgiveness. So I’ll owe $580,000 without any income.

“The government suggested I take a further loan of $1 million at a higher rate to cover the rent for the next year.

“Let me summarize: They closed my business, shut off my income, offered an ill-conceived loan without the promised forgiveness, then offered me another loan of $1 million to put me $1.6 million dollars in debt — all while I remain with no income or promise of opening.

“I should sell, but my clubs now are all worth zero!

“Last week, I had to make the tough and sad decision of shutting down my businesses and laying off 80 employees. Now I am at risk of losing my home and every dollar of my retirement savings, because I am not allowed to operate or sell the very successful company I had on March 1.

“At 67 years old, I fear government more than the virus!”
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Taosman said:
In an interview with CNN, St. Petersburg Mayor Rick Kriseman said younger people were the largest share of the spike in new cases in the region. Kriseman also pushed back on DeSantis, saying blaming the sharp rise on increased testing is “a pretty silly argument.”
https://www.tampabay.com/news/healt...tate-approaches-94000-coronavirus-infections/
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The key will be what the death rate does. If "younger people were the largest share of the spike in new cases in the region" as Kriseman claims, then the death will likely change little, if at all. Another thing to watch is how many of the new cases require hospitalizations. Again, if the newer cases are mostly "younger" people, then there will likely be little increase in hospitalizations.
 
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WHAT MIGHT ACCOUNT FOR THE RACIAL DISPARITIES THAT WE’RE SEEING?
There are likely multiple causes for these disparities. Existing racial disparities in the rates of chronic medical conditions increase the risk among ethnic minorities for serious complications of the novel coronavirus and resulting higher death rates. Additionally, the observed disparities in how the disease affects racial/ethnic minority populations highlight inequities in socio-economic status, living conditions, and access to care in the U.S. Because many racial and ethnic minority persons live in poverty, they are experiencing this pandemic in a different way. For example, they may rely on public transit if they cannot afford a car, need to shop more frequently for basic necessities since they cannot afford to stockpile goods, and do not have health insurance or access to regular medical care. Social distancing may not be a convenient or realistic option for many, because they may live in small, multi-family apartments or homes.

Ethnic minorities are also more likely to be exposed to infection while working, due to their overrepresentation in essential jobs in transportation, government, health care, and food supply services, and in low wage or temporary jobs that may not allow telework or provide paid sick leave.

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/racial-data-transparency
 
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Taosman said:
WHAT MIGHT ACCOUNT FOR THE RACIAL DISPARITIES THAT WE’RE SEEING?
There are likely multiple causes for these disparities. Existing racial disparities in the rates of chronic medical conditions increase the risk among ethnic minorities for serious complications of the novel coronavirus and resulting higher death rates. Additionally, the observed disparities in how the disease affects racial/ethnic minority populations highlight inequities in socio-economic status, living conditions, and access to care in the U.S. Because many racial and ethnic minority persons live in poverty, they are experiencing this pandemic in a different way. For example, they may rely on public transit if they cannot afford a car, need to shop more frequently for basic necessities since they cannot afford to stockpile goods, and do not have health insurance or access to regular medical care. Social distancing may not be a convenient or realistic option for many, because they may live in small, multi-family apartments or homes.

Ethnic minorities are also more likely to be exposed to infection while working, due to their overrepresentation in essential jobs in transportation, government, health care, and food supply services, and in low wage or temporary jobs that may not allow telework or provide paid sick leave.

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/racial-data-transparency
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I'dd add that there is more diabetes, obesity and so on in black urban communities than in white neighborhoods in the same cities. They have food deserts and deal with absurdities of the American food system that finds a calorie from a Twinkie massively subsidized by the federal government (high fructose corn syrup) whereas a calorie from fresh broccoli is not.

What's going to be interesting is watching the spread spike in rural white counties that have many of the same pathologies (obesity, diabetes, bad diet, drug abuse etc) as urban black communities but without the close access to world class hospitals and ICU units.
 
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Taosman said:
WHAT MIGHT ACCOUNT FOR THE RACIAL DISPARITIES THAT WE’RE SEEING?
There are likely multiple causes for these disparities. Existing racial disparities in the rates of chronic medical conditions increase the risk among ethnic minorities for serious complications of the novel coronavirus and resulting higher death rates. Additionally, the observed disparities in how the disease affects racial/ethnic minority populations highlight inequities in socio-economic status, living conditions, and access to care in the U.S. Because many racial and ethnic minority persons live in poverty, they are experiencing this pandemic in a different way. For example, they may rely on public transit if they cannot afford a car, need to shop more frequently for basic necessities since they cannot afford to stockpile goods, and do not have health insurance or access to regular medical care. Social distancing may not be a convenient or realistic option for many, because they may live in small, multi-family apartments or homes.

Ethnic minorities are also more likely to be exposed to infection while working, due to their overrepresentation in essential jobs in transportation, government, health care, and food supply services, and in low wage or temporary jobs that may not allow telework or provide paid sick leave.

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/racial-data-transparency
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Didn't you just post something similar a few days back, which we showed the only major ethnic groups adversely effected was blacks? And since when were ethnic minorities "overrepresented" in government and health care?

Also, this statement is mind-bogglingly stupid: "Social distancing may not be a convenient or realistic option for many, because they may live in small, multi-family apartments or homes." What does the size of the fucking house or how many people in it have to do with "social distancing"? Social distancing doesn't apply in the home, only out side of it, thus the term "social" distancing.
 
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MililaniBuckeye said:
Didn't you just post something similar a few days back, which we showed the only major ethnic groups adversely effected was blacks? And since when were ethnic minorities "overrepresented" in government and health care?


Also, this statement is mind-bogglingly stupid: "Social distancing may not be a convenient or realistic option for many, because they may live in small, multi-family apartments or homes." What does the size of the fucking house or how many people in it have to do with "social distancing"? Social distancing doesn't apply in the home, only out side of it, thus the term "social" distancing.
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Just another day of hand wringing and searching for links to ratchet up his anxiety levels. Just brush it off... his anxiety is going to kill / stroke him out before the virus touches him. But that’s ok, he won’t die with a positive test result so he did his part.

Wash your hands, sneeze into your elbow... wash, rinse, post links, show outrage, repeat it again tomorrow.
 
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