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Coronavirus (COVID-19) is too exciting for adults to discuss (CLOSED)

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scarletmike said:
We're up to something like 3 major conventions/shows cancelled down here, with something like a net negative impact of over 100k visitors just for those three events. This is going to one hell of roller coaster for the economy across all sectors. Quite frankly, I'm just assuming I've either already come in contact with this bug or will very soon. There's no way we don't have cases here in my immediate area.
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I live in Las Vegas. Everyone I know, myself included, got sick in January. No one I know died. It just sucked for a week-10 days. We all just assumed it was a nasty cold going around.
 
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Fungo Squiggly said:
I know it feels like an overreaction right now, but isn't it better to be overly-cautious and have it not be a huge deal rather than shrug at it until it is completely out of control? I'm certainly not freaking out over it, but I am being particularly cautious these days about handshaking/handwashing/sanitizing. If the worst thing that comes out of this (you know....other than all the deaths and roller-coaster stock market) is people are being more hygienic, that's a good thing, right?
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I'm just saying. You should have been conscious of handshaking/handwashing/sanitizing LONG before now.

It's basic. It should be ingrained.
 
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Definitely some culling going on here by mother nature. I think we won't even know the extent of this thing on places like Mumbai, Dehli, Lagos, Manila, Caracas, Nairobi, etc. for years, if ever.

In hindsight, technical definitions and specific requirements aside, the WHO shoulda probably declared this as a pandemic as soon as new confirmed cases started to pop up outside Asia. I get that probably the leaders of richer countries were maybe putting pressure on the WHO to delayed that declaration in order to avoid panic and a run on the financial markets (which is slowly happening anyway), but the WHO theoretically should have been able to distance itself from that pressure and called it...

Foreigners here in China now suddenly deciding to come back and resume their normal lives are, understandably, coming under pretty serious pressure and even some kind of special treatment. Restaurants that are known expat hangouts are getting shut down and neighborhoods with a large proportion of expats are getting house calls by the police. To some extent, it's understandable, because it seems that the expats here are only too proud to wear masks in public, as a way of showing everyone that they don't think they are infected... probably not the best place on the face of the earth to try and "stick it to the man" and put your defiance on public display, posting pictures of expat picnics and group bike rides on social media. Not good... it's kinda hard to take, even for me, as an expat. I can't imagine the level of rage that the locals are feeling, the fact that this thing seems to have started in China, notwithstanding.
 
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ORD_Buckeye said:
So, for those attempting to say this is just like the flu, here are some numbers. In the last full flu season (18-19) that the CDC has numbers for, they estimate about 35 million cases in the US with about 35K deaths or a mortality rate of 0.1% (1 in a thousand chance of dying). The mortality rate for COVID-19 is unclear. The Chinese are stating 2-2.25 percent, but the Italians are finding it closer to 5%. That's a massive statistical gap (between a 1 in 50 and a 1 in 20 chance of dying) versus a normal flu season (1 in 1,000). Throw in the abnormally long incubation period of 14 days without showing symptoms, and this is absolutely not like what we consider "the flu" in any sense.
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"Oh God, We're all gonna die!!!"

I was in a Smith's (West Coast Kroger) today. One of the guys stocking the shelves yelled that. I laughed. I caught a lot of dirty looks. It was a little out-of-the-ordinary that the stock guys were stocking at 3pm, but there are only two grocery stores that serve ~20k people in this area.

So there's that.
 
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shetuck said:
Foreigners here in China now suddenly deciding to come back and resume their normal lives are, understandably, coming under pretty serious pressure and even some kind of special treatment. Restaurants that are known expat hangouts are getting shut down and neighborhoods with a large proportion of expats are getting house calls by the police. To some extent, it's understandable, because it seems that the expats here are only too proud to wear masks in public, as a way of showing everyone that they don't think they are infected... probably not the best place on the face of the earth to try and "stick it to the man" and put your defiance on public display, posting pictures of expat picnics and group bike rides on social media. Not good... it's kinda hard to take, even for me, as an expat. I can't imagine the level of rage that the locals are feeling, the fact that this thing seems to have started in China, notwithstanding.
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You mean Americans are acting like holier-than-thou assholes in the foreign country in which they reside? Say it ain't so...
 
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MililaniBuckeye said:
You mean Americans are acting like holier-than-thou assholes in the foreign country in which they reside? Say it ain't so...
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Well... not just Americans. It's funny, and maybe a bit surprising, but it's actually more the "western" expats from other countries more than the Americans. The Koreans and Japanese, on the other hand, (whether they've been here the whole time or they just came back) are not even coming out of their apartments.

But... yeah... when it comes to being oblivious to "when in Rome" kinda things, everybody is an American.

Trying to explain to friends and family (and some foreigners here) that the reason Asians wear masks is actually to protect OTHERS, rather than to protect themselves is a huge leap of logic. Imagine... somebody doing something by first considering somebody else's welfare or the impact on one's "community" rather than always insisting on "rugged individualism". Crazy.
 
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