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Coronavirus (COVID-19) is too exciting for adults to discuss (CLOSED)

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BigWoof31 said:
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Jaxbuck said:
That is certainly part of the conversation that needs to be had.

Likelihood of spreading it, how lethal is "it", these are all part of a more nuanced approach that is infinitely more palatable than "fuck it, we'll give you what freedoms we think you should have back when we feel like the time is right"
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:shrug:
 
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Buckeneye said:
Neat. That will be a fine comfort to the dead or dying. How many is enough deaths? Ball park figure.




Here's the fun part, most people don't know they have it. So if you're allowed to peaceably assemble, knowing you've now increased your risk of catching thus giving it to another 100 fold, but haven't tested positive, can you be held accountable? You say knowingly, so is being symptomatic enough? symptoms are flu-like. Can the defense be that they just felt it was the flu sans a positive test? So I really have no case then to prove the "knowingly", do I?



Comparing something damn near airborne to a sexually transmitted disease is a bit of a stretch. Especially proving transmission. So I ask again, what's the price? Financially and criminally? If we're worried about destroying lives financially via economic slump, what if someone has no resources to compensate me for the damage? Would I be paid via victims of violent crime?



Again - very different from airborne to sexually transmitted. The latter at least providing some basis for a criminal investigation that can be accurate given the intimate nature of transmission. What if I've walked by several church going folk who are asymptomatic while shopping, who are found sick later? Whom is held responsible? All of them? Are they charged as co-conspirators? I can't prove it was JUST one of them, now can I?



Nobody is saying to rip up the Constitution. This doesn't have to be an All or Nothing situation. And if 98% of the people survive, but the same that infected swine flu (61 million) is the final count, that leaves over a million dead. So where is the threshold where we blur 'freedom' and collective sacrifice for the sake of life? Do we tell the families of those 1+ million that "Freedom isn't free"? Because we told the families of our boys that died in Afghanistan and Iraq that - which was cliche' bullshit. Some comfort for them, huh? Your number, please? How many would have to die before you consider taking pro-active measures that might temporarily limit some of what we enjoy everyday? Or is there just no such number in your mind?


I'm really going to probe you here. Because right now, you're still being quite general. I need as detailed as you can possibly give me.




The bulk of the Libertarians and "Constitutionalists" I know scream about the 2nd A and the 2nd A only. They could give a rats ass or mostly turned a blind eye to the rest.
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Yeah cool. In Ohio the penalty for breaking the order(s) is a second degree misdemeanor.

Rant away tho.
 
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ORD_Buckeye said:
I laughed, but these people are at least trying to do something and look like they don't have the resources/access to get actual masks. So while I might laugh at them (especially the Unknown Comic guy), I'll resort to actual disgust and scorn for those who won't even try like the numerous tough old Chicago guys walking around the grocery store just now like nothing's changed.
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Are you gonna walk around in a mask for the rest of your life?
 
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jwinslow said:
Any chance we could avoid forcing us to move 40 pages of posts one click at a time to another forum? Asking for not a friend.
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Sorry my man. Didn't see this before I posted another opus (you'll appreciate the line by line style tho)

Give me the link to the poli forum again?

I'll stop posting political stuff here. I promise.

Back on track: COVID-19 is the tsun of viruses (or is it viri?) lots of people are dead or dying. The economy is proper fucked.
 
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Buckeneye said:
Thanks for the all clear. Notice I'm not the only one ranting though. I'm genuinely curious as to the response otherwise I wouldn't bother asking the question(s).
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No you're not the only one ranting, you're just being the biggest dick about it.

And as usual, you only care about the questions you think are important.

And thats fine, I don't care. But again we don't get "federalism" and we dont get "constitution" and libertarianism is a dead end game, but its still a game.

If we make criminal the things that Jax outlines as rights, they wont matter anymore. Here are your rights... Cept when they aren't. That's not real freedom.

If you want to play self righteous ethicist, I don't really care. But you know these are the times that try mens souls and we hold these truths to be self evident and and this government of the people shall not perish from the earth, etc, etc might also be things to think about... Just a thought.

I'm totally good with we are all in this together and we all need to pull in the sake direction and the same first amendment lets us criticize the blood of Christ folks that they use to assemble. All good.... But if you ask me what i would do? build internment camps are one of the things i would not. Second time ive had to say that today and all i really want to do is grow my Emerson Fittipaldi hair.
 
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AKAK said:
all i really want to do is grow my Emerson Fittipaldi hair.
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I'm going full Grizzly Adams

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Jaxbuck said:
I sent mine a fifth of cheap bourbon and a handgun

she said she was going to use one of them
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My dude is an old honkeytonk guitar player... He got run out by karaoke. I was his second customer 17 years ago. Social security is probably an option for him.. i may never get my hair cut again.
 
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