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Coronavirus (COVID-19) is too exciting for adults to discuss (CLOSED)

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Steve19 said:
Jax, I wouldn't want to trust too many politicians anywhere right now. The only evidence supporting hydroxychloroquine is a 36 person trial in France. Anyone here trust the French or the findings of a 36 person trial? Didn't think so. Anyone trust, oh nevermind...


Here is the spread worldwide in real time: https://ncov2019.live/data.


Thump, none of these pandemics in recent years have really taken root in Africa and, as the map shows below, climate effects are not about heat but rather humidity. It would seem that Westerners and Asians are much more likely to get these things. H1N1, H5N1, and COVID-19 all seem to be following the same pattern.

http://gamapserver.who.int/mapLibra...bnationalMasterGradcolour_20100321_weekly.png

When you look at this map, remember that this projection distorts the size of countries. The USA, China, India, and Europe all fit easily into the African landmass. Africa's population is about the same as China and India.

https://images.app.goo.gl/yXXA9WEZZM8hPq4n8
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How does MERS fit into that ?
Genuinely asking.

More than Africa, where life expectancy isn't high and human life just doesnt have the same kind of value that merits counting (Maslow's Hierarchy issue imo)
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I'm a lot more perplexed when it comes to India.
Not to go all Seinfeld... but... how is India not awash in this ?
 
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desert_buckeye said:
My wife works at an Urgent Care clinic here in southern Arizona. She sits at the reception counter where she screens all the sick people that come in and breathe, cough, sneeze, etc. on her. She started using a mask (the cheap pollen type) couple months ago. However, her employer just now start "fitting" the staff with the N95 mask, but she cannot get a proper seal on any of them she was provided. She is worried that if she doesn't go out and buy one online for a couple hundred dollars out of her pocket (if she can even find one), that her employer will terminate her job. I feel it is the responsibility of that clinic to provide a safe working environment, and If she becomes infected it's only a matter of time before she brings it home to me and my daughter. She is freaked out and I am a little uneasy about this as well. We just had the first confirmed case on the Army base here yesterday, and us Army civilians have been teleworking from home since Tuesday of this week. Crazy shit.
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Have her imagine she is a walrus. They are known to want a tight seal.
 
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kujirakira said:
How does MERS fit into that ?
Genuinely asking.

More than Africa, where life expectancy isn't high and human life just doesnt have the same kind of value that merits counting (Maslow's Hierarchy issue imo)
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I'm a lot more perplexed when it comes to India.
Not to go all Seinfeld... but... how is India not awash in this ?
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MERS had no significant impact on sub-Saharan Africa

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Maslow's Hierarchy is an oft-cited and over-simplified "theory". Actually, it was never really proposed as a theory that could be tested. If you read his life's work, he only ever found two people that he considered to be self-actualized. Neither acted in the ways he thought they would. One was a fellow professor who never spoke to a colleague after that person presented a different viewpoint in a meeting.

The "hierarchy" rests on the notion of prepotency, which means that people will fulfill physiological needs, then security needs, and so on until self-actualization. There has never been any empirical support for this notion. In fact, we all know of the perfect example that disproves it. Consider the war hero who "gives his life for his country" by taking enemy fire or jumping on a hand grenade. Such a person rejects physiological and personal security needs in the interest of love and belonging and esteem. Maslow's theory was the basis for the VALS typology in marketing, which was discredited because it did not predict behavior well.

The notion that life means less on the African continent or in India is a Western colonial myth. I have spent considerable time on both continents working with the poor and the business community. I have never seen this. People everywhere love others and mourn their passing.

The reason why Africa and the Indian subcontinent are not centers of the pandemic, at least in part, is because (a) populations are younger, (b) obesity is much lower, (c) diets include far less processed food, and (d) populations remain far less urbanized (although urbanization proceeds at pace).
 
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