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CONFIRMED: PSU football players in trouble

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BuckeyeMike80;871675; said:
Maybe, but they did happen to win the Big Ten that year.

This looks more like they are trying to get their best players on the field to give that old man one last winner before he leaves.....
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You're reaching. Yeah, they won the B10... but... they fucking memorialized a handrail for a victory against a team that left State College 3 - 2 (was not even a game against a No. 1 - I think OSU was... 5.. or maybe 7 at the time.. fell to 9 or thereabouts). Granted, that team did end up 10 - 2.. :wink2:
 
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BuckeyeMike80 said:
Maybe, but they did happen to win the Big Ten that year.

This looks more like they are trying to get their best players on the field to give that old man one last winner before he leaves.....
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they tied.....and making a monument out of a piece of the stadium & making up t-shirts for a non-rival, non-bowl game victory is about as desperate as it gets.
 
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Buckeyeskickbuttocks;871680; said:
You're reaching. Yeah, they won the B10... but... they fucking memorialized a handrail for a victory against a team that left State College 3 - 2 (was not even a game against a No. 1 - I think OSU was... 5.. or maybe 7 at the time.. fell to 9 or thereabouts). Granted, that team did end up 10 - 2.. :wink2:
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That shows me, at least, that beating OSU, no matter the rank, is the highlight of a team's year :biggrin:

BuckeyeNation27;871683; said:
they tied.....and making a monument out of a piece of the stadium & making up t-shirts for a non-rival, non-bowl game victory is about as desperate as it gets.
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True, but Penn State got the automatic bid if I remember correctly. Anyway that is arguing semantics. See the comment above about how a team beating Ohio State is now the highlight of their season.

It's more stupid than desperate.

I think that should show us how well Ohio State is doing.
 
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BuckeyeMike80;871698; said:
I think that should show us how well Ohio State is doing.
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Looks like Methomps is doing better:

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Zurp;871442; said:
Just out of curiosity, do the players need to be taking summer classes in order to practice with the team?
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BuckeyeNation27;871447; said:
it appears there are no rules on that campus.
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Ok, what about in general? At other schools? I'm not so interested in what's enforced, but what the actual rule is. Is it an NCAA rule? School rule? Neither? Both?
 
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Zurp;871890; said:
Ok, what about in general? At other schools? I'm not so interested in what's enforced, but what the actual rule is. Is it an NCAA rule? School rule? Neither? Both?
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The NCAA manual's section on eligibility discusses allowing the student-athletes to 'represent an institution in intercollegiate athletics competition'. Otherwise, the guidelines leave it up to the university (subject to its conference's legislation) to determine whether the athlete is in 'good academic standing', as long as the minimum credit hours are satisfied.

The athlete must also be OK with NCAA guidelines concerning these three areas: amateurism, not receiving improrper benefits, and the standards of 'ethical conduct' (which mainly cover academic fraud, banned substances, and cooperating with any NCAA investigations).

The section mentioning eligibility for practice mentions that the student-athlete must be enrolled with the minimum number of credit hours (during the summer, this may be satisfied by either the prior or following semester/quarter). It also mentions that academic non-qualifiers are not allowed to practice.

Here are selected parts of Section 14 on 'Eligibility' from the 2006/07 NCAA Division I manual. This area also mentions things like 'progress toward a degree'. I've bolded some sections. This link is to the full 476-page Adobe document. Section 14 starts on page 146.

ncaa.division_i_manual/2006-07l.pdf


14.01.1 Institutional Responsibility.
An institution shall not permit a student-athlete to represent it in intercollegiate athletics competition unless the student-athlete meets all applicable eligibility requirements, and the institution has certified the student-athlete?s eligibility.

14.01.2 Academic Status. ​

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To be eligible to represent an institution in intercollegiate athletics competition, a student-athlete shall be enrolled in at least a minimum full-time program of studies, be in good academic standing and maintain progress toward a baccalaureate or equivalent degree. A waiver of the minimum full-time enrollment requirement may be granted for a student enrolled in the final term of the baccalaureate program (see Bylaw 14.1.8.2.1.3). Also, a student may represent the institution while enrolled as a graduate or professional student or while enrolled and seeking a second baccalaureate degree at the same institution (see Bylaw 14.1.9).

14.01.2.1 Good Academic Standing. ​

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To be eligible to represent an institution in intercollegiate athletics competition, a student-athlete shall be in good academic standing as determined by the academic authorities who determine the meaning of such phrases for all students of the institution, subject to controlling legislation of the conference(s) or similar association of which the institution is a member. (Note: The restrictions, exceptions and waivers set forth in Bylaws 14.4.3.4.4 and 14.4.3.7 also apply to the general requirement for good academic standing and progress toward degree.)

14.01.3 Compliance with Other NCAA and Conference Legislation. ​

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To be eligible to represent an institution in intercollegiate athletics competition, a student-athlete shall be in compliance with all applicable provisions of the constitution and bylaws of the Association and all rules and regulations of the institution and the conference(s), if any, of which the institution is a member. Specific attention is called to legislation affecting eligibility in the following areas.

14.01.3.1 Amateurism. ​

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A student-athlete shall not be eligible for participation in an intercollegiate sport if the individual takes or has taken pay, or has accepted the promise of pay in any form, for participation in that sport, or if the individual has violated any of the other regulations related to amateurism set forth in Bylaw 12. (See Bylaw 12.1.1.) (Revised: 1/9/06 effective 8/1/06, for all final certifications for student-athletes initially enrolled at a Division I institution on or after 8/1/07)

14.01.3.2 Awards, Benefits and Expenses. ​

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Receipt by a student-athlete of nonpermissible awards, extra benefits, or excessive or improper expenses not authorized by NCAA legislation violates the Association?s amateurism principle and renders the student-athlete ineligible for athletics participation in the sport for which the improper award, benefit or expense was received (see Bylaw 16). A student-athlete who receives an institutional postgraduate scholarship as part of a senior scholar-athlete award shall not be eligible for intercollegiate athletics participation in all sports, except that a student may complete the remainder of any season currently in progress at the time of the award (e.g., postseason competition in a spring sport that occurs after graduation).
(Revised: 4/25/02)​

14.01.3.3 Unethical Conduct. A prospective or enrolled student-athlete who is found to have engaged in unethical conduct (see Bylaw 10.1) shall be ineligible for intercollegiate competition in
all sports. (Revised: 1/10/90, 4/27/06)​

Note - Here's the separate section on Unethical Conduct.​


10.1 UNETHICAL CONDUCT
Unethical conduct by a prospective or enrolled student-athlete or a current or former institutional staff member (e.g., coach, professor, tutor, teaching assistant, student manager, student trainer) may include, but is not limited to, the following: ​

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(Revised: 1/10/90, 1/9/96, 2/22/01)
(a) Refusal to furnish information relevant to an investigation of a possible violation of an NCAA regulation when requested to do so by the NCAA or the individual?s institution;​
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(b) Knowing involvement in arranging for fraudulent academic credit or false transcripts for a prospective or an enrolled student-athlete;
(c) Knowing involvement in offering or providing a prospective or an enrolled student-athlete an improper inducement or extra benefit or improper financial aid; (Revised: 1/9/96)
(d) Knowingly furnishing the NCAA or the individual?s institution false or misleading information concerning the individual?s involvement in or knowledge of matters relevant to a possible violation of an NCAA regulation;
(e) Receipt of benefits by an institutional staff member for facilitating or arranging a meeting between a student-athlete and an agent, financial advisor or a representative of an agent or advisor (e.g., ?runner?);
(Adopted: 1/9/96, Revised: 8/4/05)
(f) Knowing involvement in providing a banned substance or impermissible supplement to student-athletes, or knowingly providing medications to student-athletes contrary to medical licensure, commonly accepted standards of care in sports medicine practice, or state and federal law; ​

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(Adopted: 8/4/05)
(g) Failure to provide complete and accurate information to the NCAA or institution?s admissions office regarding an individual?s academic record (e.g., schools attended, completion of coursework, grades and test scores); ​

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(Adopted: 4/27/06)
(h) Fraudulence or misconduct in connection with entrance or placement examinations; or ​

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(Adopted: 4/27/06)
(i) Engaging in any athletics competition under an assumed name or with intent to otherwise deceive. ​

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(Adopted: 4/27/06)​



14.1.8.1 Requirement for Practice. ​

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To be eligible to participate in organized practice sessions, a student-athlete shall be enrolled in a minimum full-time program of studies leading to a baccalaureate ​
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or equivalent degree as defined by the regulations of the certifying institution. The violation shall be considered an institutional violation per Constitution 2.8.1; however, it shall not affect the student-athlete?s eligibility. (Revised: 1/10/92, 10/28/99)​
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Things continue to move forward with PA Commonwealth velocity (read slowly) in the story of the fight in Central PA.

Latest! (Yahoo via U-Wire) DA Seeks Players Class Records.

(U-WIRE) UNIVERSITY PARK, Pa. -- The State College Police Department served Penn State's Office of Judicial Affairs a search warrant on Wednesday seeking any evidence of what occurred at a downtown apartment invasion in April that police say involved some Penn State football players.
Centre County District Attorney Michael Madeira said the warrant seeks "any evidence of what occurred on that evening," which includes "statements made to Judicial Affairs that might identify those that were present [and] other criminal activity."
Karen Muir, the attorney for defensive tackle Chris Baker, said she is happy about the search warrant.
"Frankly, I'm glad the district attorney's office and the State College police have served this search warrant," she said. "I believe that it's going to come to a positive resolution."
Ron McGlaughlin, the attorney for safety Anthony Scirrotto, could not be reached for comment. Baker and Scirrotto face charges of burglary, criminal trespass and simple assault. Scirrotto is also charged with harassment and two counts of criminal solicitation. Criminal mischief and disorderly conduct charges against Baker were dropped.
Penn State spokeswoman Lisa Powers said the university is in the process of complying with the search warrant's request. In order to comply, the students involved must first be notified, and Powers added that the university is working on contacting the students who Judicial Affairs interviewed.
"These files are considered a part of their educational files," Powers said. "Students must be notified that their educational information is sought."
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So, will we now learn of the Amish musical classes in State College, that the PSU players were actively studying before their reenactment of "Saturday Night's Alright For Fighting" got just a little too real in the wee small hours of April 1?
 
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another letter under the door?

Judge drops charges against Scirrotto in connection with fight

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A judge dismissed five of seven charges against Penn State safety Anthony Scirrotto for an April off-campus fight.

Centre County Judge Charles Brown Jr. dismissed felony charges of burglary and criminal solicitation; two misdemeanor counts of criminal solicitation; and one misdemeanor count of simple assault.

Brown ruled Monday there was no evidence indicating Scirrotto instigated the fight.

Brown let stand a felony count of criminal trespass. Scirrotto still faces one count of harassment, a summary offense, which Brown did not address in his written order, defense attorney Ron McGlaughlin said Tuesday.

"Part of the weight has been lifted off Scirrotto's shoulders," McGlaughlin said Tuesday.

Continued...
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