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Company Christmas Party

OSUsushichic;687832; said:
What the fuck is wrong with calling it a holiday party? Some of you need to get a grip. It's not like "liberals" are trying to take your Christmas away -- only trying to include everyone who might not be Christian.

You're so very right. Please forward this message to the middle east and ask them to stop referencing the bigoted celebration called Ramadan and call it the "Holiday Month".

Isreal should immediately cease with the concept of Chanukah and begin the new "8 days of Diversity" celebration.

When those two happen, I'll stop calling Christmas "Christmas".
 
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And inversely, tonight, my daughter's school put on a presentation about how other countries and cultures celebrate the coming of winter.

They had children in customary dress doing dances, singing songs, and reciting prepared speeches about Ramadan, Kwnazaa, Chanukah, Christmas and many other traditional celebrations. Many of the kids in her school are Indian, Pakistani, Japanese and Korean. Some of them are still learning English as they go.

My daughter's understanding of other cultures and her exposure to their customs and traditions have done wonders for her education and development.

Just thought I'd share a positive story to balance out 'fool's "stupid bitch story".
Scooter, this is something you posted in another thread. This make me believe you actually embrace diversity. So, why is it not OK to embrace diversity at your own holiday party? It sure is nice being a white Christian male in this country. :wink:

(sorry to get off on this topic -- Romanowski's post got me fired up. :))
 
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OSUsushichic;687919; said:
Scooter, this is something you posted in another thread. This make me believe you actually embrace diversity. So, why is it not OK to embrace diversity at your own holiday party? It sure is nice being a white Christian male in this country. :wink:

(sorry to get off on this topic -- Romanowski's post got me fired up. :))

I'm all for diversity. I most certainly embrace it. I think everyone should be able to celebrate Christmas, no matter where a person calls home. Just as a person living in tha Vatican should be able to celebrate Kwanzaa if they so chose. But don't expect the Vatican to stop calling Christmas on account of a minority who don't celebrate it.

If I chose to celebrate Ramadan, I'll celebrate Ramadan. But I'm not going to take away its meaning by calling something its not.

I'd hardly call myself a christian. I believe in God. I believe the Bible is most certainly not fiction. But I do not present the values of a true Christian. I'm an asshole. I have character flaws that one does not find in a christian.

My home celebrates Christmas. My kids understand the meaning of Christmas. And to reduce the concept of Christmas to just calling it a "holiday" is disrespectful to Christ.

If we treated MLK day this way, the world would be up in arms over it. But its just a holiday? Right? Why leave his name on it? Just call it "a day off in January". That'll suffice, won't it?

The Prophet Mohammed was born on April 20th. Does anyone demand that Muslims just give that day a generic "holiday" tag?

What about Buddha?

Point is, why should I, or anyone who celebrates Christmas, accept the bastardization of it?

Either you celebrate Christmas or you don't.

I celebrate Christmas. That's what I'm going to call it.
 
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scooter1369;687972; said:
I'm all for diversity. I most certainly embrace it. I think everyone should be able to celebrate Christmas, no matter where a person calls home. Just as a person living in tha Vatican should be able to celebrate Kwanzaa if they so chose. But don't expect the Vatican to stop calling Christmas on account of a minority who don't celebrate it.

If I chose to celebrate Ramadan, I'll celebrate Ramadan. But I'm not going to take away its meaning by calling something its not.

I'd hardly call myself a christian. I believe in God. I believe the Bible is most certainly not fiction. But I do not present the values of a true Christian. I'm an asshole. I have character flaws that one does not find in a christian.

My home celebrates Christmas. My kids understand the meaning of Christmas. And to reduce the concept of Christmas to just calling it a "holiday" is disrespectful to Christ.

If we treated MLK day this way, the world would be up in arms over it. But its just a holiday? Right? Why leave his name on it? Just call it "a day off in January". That'll suffice, won't it?

The Prophet Mohammed was born on April 20th. Does anyone demand that Muslims just give that day a generic "holiday" tag?

What about Buddha?

Point is, why should I, or anyone who celebrates Christmas, accept the bastardization of it?

Either you celebrate Christmas or you don't.

I celebrate Christmas. That's what I'm going to call it.

Great post Scooter, seriously.
 
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the "Christmas Party" at my place of employment consisted of everyone bringing in food or paying 5 bucks to cover the outside food ordered in. It was basically paying 5 bucks to eat lunch in a different room with food I wouldn't otherwise eat. But then again, I didn't choose to work there for the Christmas parties, and I'll be consoling myself in early January with a pair of these bad boys from said place of employment...

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scooter1369;687972; said:
I'm all for diversity. I most certainly embrace it. I think everyone should be able to celebrate Christmas, no matter where a person calls home. Just as a person living in tha Vatican should be able to celebrate Kwanzaa if they so chose. But don't expect the Vatican to stop calling Christmas on account of a minority who don't celebrate it.

If I chose to celebrate Ramadan, I'll celebrate Ramadan. But I'm not going to take away its meaning by calling something its not.

I'd hardly call myself a christian. I believe in God. I believe the Bible is most certainly not fiction. But I do not present the values of a true Christian. I'm an asshole. I have character flaws that one does not find in a christian.

My home celebrates Christmas. My kids understand the meaning of Christmas. And to reduce the concept of Christmas to just calling it a "holiday" is disrespectful to Christ.

If we treated MLK day this way, the world would be up in arms over it. But its just a holiday? Right? Why leave his name on it? Just call it "a day off in January". That'll suffice, won't it?

The Prophet Mohammed was born on April 20th. Does anyone demand that Muslims just give that day a generic "holiday" tag?

What about Buddha?

Point is, why should I, or anyone who celebrates Christmas, accept the bastardization of it?

Either you celebrate Christmas or you don't.

I celebrate Christmas. That's what I'm going to call it.

Scooter, the key word in your post is "home." You can call it whatever the hell you want at home. Your office, on the other hand, obviously encompasses more people than just you -- including people who hold other views than yours. However, by calling it a holiday party, they did not exclude your beliefs.

So, how many times did you praise Christ in your office? Muhammed? If yours was like most office parties, whether it's officially called a Christmas party or a holiday party, doesn't really fucking matter anyway unless you're actually incorporating some sort of religious observation. No one is dissing Christ by calling it a holiday party. Do you think Christ really likes eggnog? :biggrin:
 
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OSUsushichic;688037; said:
Scooter, the key word in your post is "home." You can call it whatever the hell you want at home. Your office, on the other hand, obviously encompasses more people than just you -- including people who hold other views than yours. However, by calling it a holiday party, they did not exclude your beliefs.

So, how many times did you praise Christ in your office? Muhammed? If yours was like most office parties, whether it's officially called a Christmas party or a holiday party, doesn't really fucking matter anyway unless you're actually incorporating some sort of religious observation. No one is dissing Christ by calling it a holiday party. Do you think Christ really likes eggnog? :biggrin:

I can call it Christmas in the office too. At the Mall, in Ohio stadium, on the state house lawn. I can call it Christmas where ever I chose. And I can do that without excluding Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus and those who worship the flying Spaghetti Monster. Because none of them care about Christmas.

If people shun a Christmas party because its called a "Christmas party", it shows their intolerance, not mine.
 
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scooter1369;688053; said:
I can call it Christmas in the office too. At the Mall, in Ohio stadium, on the state house lawn. I can call it Christmas where ever I chose. And I can do that without excluding Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus and those who worship the flying Spaghetti Monster. Because none of them care about Christmas.

If people shun a Christmas party because its called a "Christmas party", it shows their intolerance, not mine.

Of course you can call it "Christmas" wherever you choose. So can I. If you are offended by a "holiday party" at your office (e.g., group you work with) then I suggest you become self-employed so that you can celebrate it however you want. What I cannot understand is how a Christian could be offended by attending a holiday party. I can understand how a Christian might not want to attend a Hanukkah party (or how a Jew might be uncomfortable attending a Christmas party), but a holiday party is for everyone! And unless you're clergy (or work for a religious organization), then your office party ought not to be "religious" anyway.
 
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Our party is this coming Saturday at Undo's in St. Clairsville. Last year we had it at 356? Fighter Squadron in North Canton next to the Akron/Canton airport. It's a pretty small affiar with just management and office staff and their significant others. I guess this year after dinner the after event is a trip to Wheeling Island resort but i'll probably skip out on that. I can't afford to lost a ton of money gambling with gifts yet to be purchased.
 
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Of course you can call it "Christmas" wherever you choose. So can I. If you are offended by a "holiday party" at your office (e.g., group you work with) then I suggest you become self-employed so that you can celebrate it however you want. What I cannot understand is how a Christian could be offended by attending a holiday party. I can understand how a Christian might not want to attend a Hanukkah party (or how a Jew might be uncomfortable attending a Christmas party), but a holiday party is for everyone! And unless you're clergy (or work for a religious organization), then your office party ought not to be "religious" anyway.
seperation of church and state???? kind of sounds like it....:)
 
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OSUsushichic;688037; said:
So, how many times did you praise Christ in your office? Muhammed? If yours was like most office parties, whether it's officially called a Christmas party or a holiday party, doesn't really fucking matter anyway unless you're actually incorporating some sort of religious observation. No one is dissing Christ by calling it a holiday party. Do you think Christ really likes eggnog? :biggrin:

Do Christians have the same opportunities to see their faith taught in public schools as Hawaiians and their pagan past?

Why are Muslim and Jewish religious symbols allowed in NYC public schools but not Christian religious symbols?

How can taxpayer-funded Smithsonian Institute feature a live display of native American worship, ostensibly to illustrate "the contemporary nature" of such religious rites, yet the mere mention of God in any context that could be Christian, in the public arena, draws lawsuits from the ACLU?

I will buy into the liberal God-hating myth of neutrality when Muskingum College takes the National Championship. There is no neutrality: it's any religion and every religion but NEVER Christianity. That is the reality of what we see practiced and litigated.
 
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