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ORD_Buckeye said:
Not sure, but I thought those games were all at Ohio HS sites. Does that even still happen? I couldn't find anything beyond 2012 for the Spray Tan Classic. ESPN probably can't afford it anymore because of their LHN losses.

And I think this is fundamentally different than the Spray Tan Classic or hosting a high school playoff. In those cases (certainly the latter) the university really has no influence in which schools end up playing. Here it clearly appears to be the juggalos inviting certain talent-rich high schools in as a recruiting tool.
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The Ohio vs USA games I went to in 06 & 07 were all at Nippert.

Also The Dayton City League schools share Welcome Stadium with UD.
 
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kujirakira said:
Didn't we fight for Corn to stay in AAU? Don't think Ohio State is holding anyone back from joining. Better to look at scUM and Wisconsin for that... not that I disagree with those 2 on this matter (GTech good addition... Cinci? Need another gear...)
Similarly, getting into a P5 is Cinci's problem -- actually they were in a P5. But it imploded of its own accord. That they weren't picked up by ACC or BXII... well... they just weren't attractive enough I guess. Work on your resume.
The middle 2, Ohio State might actually have some connection to... I'm not plugged into Ohio's state politics. But of course the question has to be whether there's a population to support state funding for 2 institutions at that level. I know in Colorado, there isn't. CU gets the job done. CSU is a viable 2nd option. Mines helps round out the STEM.
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Ohio State doesn't have the clout to hold anyone back from being invited or not invited into the AAU, which is what makes the juggalo president's whining so infuriating. We're one of 62 votes of which many carry much more clout than we do. He knows we're not keeping him out; he's just throwing red meat to a certain constituency. Several Big Ten schools voted to boot The Corn, and I honestly don't know what our vote was.

The CCC things too is one where we don't have a say. The reality is that Ohio already has two CCCs, which is pretty much the limit for a state our size. Cincy's is, in no way, equal to The James or that of the Cleveland Clinic (maybe Case I'm not sure), so they just need to realize that they are on the outside looking in--be the third best cancer hospital in the state that you can be and shut your juggalo hole.

Multiple flagships is a fucking oxymoron to begin with. Other than Indiana with Purdue and IU and California with Cal and UCLA (a unique situation given the size of the state and presence of two global class cities), there's always a hierarchy--i.e. UM/MSU, UT/Aggy, Colorado/CSU, UVA/VaTech. In any event, Ohio was set up 150 years ago as a single flagship school similar to Illinois, Wisconsin, Minnesota and California where the classical arts and sciences university and the A&M land grant school were one and the same. Secondly, it flies directly in the face of everything the state has done since Rhodes left office to try and undo his idiocy. It's of little surprise that Kasich shut his ass down.
 
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In truth, these games being played at Nippert will probably have a bigger impact on recruiting non-athletes to UC. Many of the kids at those schools look to Xavier and UD first.

Gotta flex that superior proximity to Chipotle.
 
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ORD_Buckeye said:
Ohio State doesn't have the clout to hold anyone back from being invited or not invited into the AAU, which is what makes the juggalo president's whining so infuriating. We're one of 62 votes of which many carry much more clout than we do. He knows we're not keeping him out; he's just throwing red meat to a certain constituency. Several Big Ten schools voted to boot The Corn, and I honestly don't know what our vote was.

The CCC things too is one where we don't have a say. The reality is that Ohio already has two CCCs, which is pretty much the limit for a state our size. Cincy's is, in no way, equal to The James or that of the Cleveland Clinic (maybe Case I'm not sure), so they just need to realize that they are on the outside looking in--be the third best cancer hospital in the state that you can be and shut your juggalo hole.

Multiple flagships is a fucking oxymoron to begin with. Other than Indiana with Purdue and IU and California with Cal and UCLA (a unique situation given the size of the state and presence of two global class cities), there's always a hierarchy--i.e. UM/MSU, UT/Aggy, Colorado/CSU, UVA/VaTech. In any event, Ohio was set up 150 years ago as a single flagship school similar to Illinois, Wisconsin, Minnesota and California where the classical arts and sciences university and the A&M land grant school were one and the same. Secondly, it flies directly in the face of everything the state has done since Rhodes left office to try and undo his idiocy. It's of little surprise that Kasich shut his ass down.
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You have to remember Gee was President at the time and he was 100% behind Perlman. In true Gee form there were a few zingers... something about staging an Egyptian rebellion / Arab Spring. I don't think there's any doubt how he cast his vote.
Indiana is doing so great... if there's another Big school about to be booted from the AAU, it'd be them (there's probably a lot more dross - like Oregon - between them and the rank Syracuse left at - 104). They're ever so slowly merging with Purdont anyway. I just wish one of them would fold their athletics program ala Chicago.
Cal is a very unique situation with an enormous population.
 
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1. WAY back in the 50s & 60s my high school - Kettering Fairmont -played half our home schedule at Baujahn Field on the University of Dayton campus.
2. Moeller High School used Nippert and Riverfront for games with Elder and Princeton in the 70s thru to today.
3. One of the reasons for this is the small size of school stadiums throughout SW Ohio where there is nothing like Fawcett or Brown stadiums.
4. Many HS basketball games, especially tournament games, get played at Miami, UC and UD facilities.
5. Nippert and Perc - Welcome host OHSAA playoff games and the state final will soon be returning to Ohio Stadium - thanks be to Urban.
 
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ORD_Buckeye said:
So, say this makes a [Mark May]load of money for the high school. You don't think that gives the juggalos an undue--even if unspoken--pressure on those coaches to push kids to UC? Oh, St-X, that 5* quarterback that we really wanted went to Notre Dame instead. Looks like Moeller will be playing at Nippert this Fall instead, adjust your budget accordingly.
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Serious non-trolling question for ORD and other OSU bros.

Do you view this as different than state quarterfinal games being played in big college venues?

I had a career fair in Oxford last year and the town was packed because of a state playoff game being played at MU's stadium.

I really don't have a problem with it at all. Great memories for those kids and the schools probably do pretty well at concessions that day.
 
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BigWoof31 said:
Serious non-trolling question for ORD and other OSU bros.

Do you view this as different than state quarterfinal games being played in big college venues?

I had a career fair in Oxford last year and the town was packed because of a state playoff game being played at MU's stadium.

I really don't have a problem with it at all. Great memories for those kids and the schools probably do pretty well at concessions that day.
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I do see a difference. I don't have a problem with the juggalos hosting playoffs. When hosting a playoff, the college has literally no influence over which HS is going to play in the stadium. In Cincy's case, this appears to be a focused effort to let the most talent-rich schools in SW Ohio highlight their programs by playing at Nippert.
 
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http://www.cincinnati.com/story/rec...p-football-games-at-nippert-stadium/27506623/

The event is organized by a guy named Tom Gamble, and evidently this is it's 18th year. I don't think the University has any say in team selection, although the result is as ORD points out - it's a showcase for the best teams in the region, and it puts potential recruits on UC's campus. But I don't think it violates NCAA rules. I recall that they tried to have it (or a similar event) at PBS in the past and Mike Brown said no. He was concerned about damage to the turf, which was natural at the time. I personally think it's a good thing to let high school events use public university facilities, so long as representatives of the universities don't violate NCAA recruiting rules while the kids are there.
 
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One reason this is happening in Cincinnati is that Cincinnatians turn out in droves for high school football, especially for the catholic schools. A lot of people who live in Cincinnati were born here, went to high school here, either stayed or came back after college, and will probably die here, so there are plenty of alumni around who are interested in going to games. It makes events like this profitable for the groups organizing them.
 
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