College tuition up....again.....

[Golferdow01]

Consider it an investment in your eventual inheritance from those snobby rich fuckers then.

One day perhaps, but it would never be a top reason to wed :)

 

[BuckBackHome]

Short-term, it's so easy to get work as a nurse that the prestige won't matter. Long-term, if she wants to get into hospital administration or something it might help.

Yep. If she wants to be a floor nurse a diploma program from a local community college is all she needs. If she wants to go on to get her BSN and then pursue something like her MSN, NP or become a Nurse Anesthetist (sp?) then that is different. However, she needs experience before pursuing those advanced degrees.

I still recall what a university president told me years ago: He had students in college working to fund lifestyles, not working to get through and get on with the real world.

You can find articles now how young adults are pushing back their lives because of the amount of debt they bring with them out of college. They push back renting their first place, getting married, buying a house, and so on. It will be interesting to feel the ripple.

 

[ORD_Buckeye]

Hence, institutions fail to control their costs because they are in a desperate competition to attact as many students as possible. Interestingly, the best thing for higher education right now is to have a bunch of institutions fail and go out of business.

Or in the case of Ohio, forcibly merge some of the Fredo schools. Fingerhut, in a recent speech, just hinted strongly that a shotgun marriage might be in the works for Kent State and Akron. A similar merging of BG and UT would also serve to make Ohio's system of public education more rationale given the state's current trends in population growth and financing means.

While I agree that there's too many colleges, both nationally and within Ohio's public higher education system, the over supply doesn't seem to be hurting us. Demand for Ohio State has never been stronger. We had a 30% jump in overall applications last year and a 50% jump from students with 32+ ACT scores.

 

[Golferdow01]

You can find articles now how young adults are pushing back their lives because of the amount of debt they bring with them out of college. They push back renting their first place, getting married, buying a house, and so on. It will be interesting to feel the ripple.

The problem out here at least (The East Coast) is that the cost of tuition along with the cost of purchasing a home are going up at a much faster rate than the rate of an entry level salary...

 

[cincibuck]

And to get back to your original point, since we're talking about a nursing degree, and we're comparing Maryland, a fast improving state school with national recognition, with Johns Hopkins, how can JH be worth it?

Where, beyond vanity, is the payoff?

How can anyone afford to go to (fill in the name of any BMW school) to become a teacher, nurse, social worker? The education costs exceed any possible renumeration... even, and especially, if the person's goal is to remain in acadameia. I even wonder why such places have programs for those fields. (e.g. Harvard got out of the ed school biz quite some time ago, though they still have a grad program)

Assuming that you intend to stay in the East, given that now is a rare buyer's housing market, why drop 30K on vanity?

 

[buckeyegrad]

Remember Jim Rhodes and his constant harping about jobs, jobs, jobs? Watch what happens when state monies dry up. Politicians will cut back on services, close state parks, trim police forces, eliminate programs for seniors, kids, people with disabilities, but they'll make sure the highway and building funds don't get trimmed. That's the holy cow of election funding.

To be fair, the highway budget in Ohio is separate from the general one and is funded from the taxes on gasoline. Therefore, it is not really fair to lump our roads/highways in with the other services.

 

[buckeyegrad]

Or in the case of Ohio, forcibly merge some of the Fredo schools. Fingerhut, in a recent speech, just hinted strongly that a shotgun marriage might be in the works for Kent State and Akron. A similar merging of BG and UT would also serve to make Ohio's system of public education more rationale given the state's current trends in population growth and financing means.

I quite agree with this and really hope the merger happens here at Kent and Akron. It is absurd that there are two state institutions only 12 miles apart that duplicate so many different programs.

 

[BB73]

thelantern

Strickland stops tuition increase
Benjamin Lammers

Issue date: 7/3/07

Given the hefty tuition hikes from the last several years, affordable tuition at Ohio's state universities seemed like a pipe dream. Saturday, Gov. Ted Strickland signed that dream into law.

Ohio's two-year, $52.3 billion budget calls for a $350 million increase in funding to pay for a two-year freeze in undergraduate tuition for state universities and community colleges.

In a statement, Strickland said the tuition freeze will open the doors of public colleges and universities to more Ohioans.

"The administration believes that strengthening education is the surest path to strengthening Ohio," he said.

Cont'd ...

 

[The KSB]

I quite agree with this and really hope the merger happens here at Kent and Akron. It is absurd that there are two state institutions only 12 miles apart that duplicate so many different programs.

Fuck that!!!! They can close that shithole crAkron and ship everyone of those down syndrome rejects off to special ed programs designed to suit their needs for all I care. But fuck that merger shit. I don't want all of those rejects running around drooling all over KSU's beautiful campus.

 

[sandgk]

In due course dwindling population in NE Ohio will cause one of them to close.

Better a stable single institution than two limping along as nearest neighbors.

Merge, or let Darwinian rules apply - in thirty years we may no longer have both of these schools open in their present form.

 

[Thump]

I quite agree with this and really hope the merger happens here at Kent and Akron. It is absurd that there are two state institutions only 12 miles apart that duplicate so many different programs.

OSU can always use more branch campuses.

 

[BuckBackHome]

I wasn't sure where to post this article, but figured this was the best place. I cannot wait to read @ORD_Buckeye thoughts.

Short version is Cleveland State, which is down like 15% in enrollment wants to spend $650 million for all kinds of new buildings and increase enrollment by roughly 30%. Not sure where the funds are coming from. I am pretty sure during Covid CSU was offering a BOGO deal for tuition. Buy one semester get one free.

https://www.cleveland.com/news/2022...-adding-sports-and-partnership-districts.html

 

[Thump]

At what point are degrees no longer required for certain employment?

 

[MaliBuckeye]

At what point are degrees no longer required for certain employment?

To be honest... I hope soon (even though that would gut my "Ivy Tower Industry").
A BA should not merely be a certification program for corporations too lazy to screen potential employees or too short sighted to train them.