College tuition up....again.....

[MililaniBuckeye]

The dorms were rumored to be modeled on a prison. A Swedish women's prison to be precise. Sadly horny blonde female of Nordic lineage were in short supply - unlike the cold and nasty food or cramped quarters.

So that explains it...

 

[sandgk]

So that explains it...

The local nurses college was an adequate substitute - and had better dorms.

 

[BB73]

thelantern/Grad-Student.Tuition.Rises

Grad student tuition rises
Alaina Busch

Undergraduates and their parents might have cheered when Ohio State proposed to cap tuition hikes at 3 percent next year, but graduate students might not be celebrating.

Next year graduate and professional students will see hikes of 6 to 13.3 percent, depending on the program.

Cont'd ...

 

[buckeyegrad]

http://money.cnn.com/2006/10/24/pf/college/college_costs/index.htm?postversion=2006102410

Can someone please explain to me why college costs continuously outstrip inflation, especially at the undergrad level? To my knowledge, calculus has not changed much in the last few hundred years, and history of the Civil War is a pretty static concept. What are these kids getting extra that justifies a 7% increase every year? For my money - with the exception of the use of computer technology (which actually makes things more efficient and should reduce costs), undergrad educations have not changed all that much in the last 30 years. Can someone explain to me why they are several times more expensive now in real terms than they were then? What I do know is that anything that rises faster than overall inflation for an extended period generally has to revert to the mean at some point, and it is high time that higher education realizes that they have budgets to meet like the rest of us.

There is an oversupply of higher education right now in the United States; however, instead of causing prices to decrease, which typically happens when there is an oversupply of a product, it has increased the sticker price because the increased competition for the market has raised costs considerably. Since demand for higher education has not kept pace with the supply, colleges/universities have had two options in order to stay in business: either increase ammenities (e.g. dorms, recreational facilities, classrooms, student activities, etc) to attack more students or expand educational programs to find untapped demand (e.g. distance education, certificate programs, etc). Hence, institutions fail to control their costs because they are in a desperate competition to attact as many students as possible. Interestingly, the best thing for higher education right now is to have a bunch of institutions fail and go out of business.

Also keep in mind that higher education is one of those commodities that the buyer often presumes that greater cost equates to better product. Hence, some institutions actually take the approach of trying to increase their image by raising tuition prices.

 

[Golferdow01]

Also keep in mind that higher education is one of those commodities that the buyer often presumes that greater cost equates to better product. Hence, some institutions actually take the approach of trying to increase their image by raising tuition prices.

I'm feeling the pain in this regard. My fiance wants her nursing degree to be from Johns Hopkins (Over $60,000 in tuition for 2 years) when the University of Maryland would be under $30,000. I'm still trying to convince her that she will land an equal job either way but she still thinks having the name on her degree will make a difference in how she is perceived...

 

[BB73]

Hours required for graduation are being reduced. And apparently there's a new course in 'fuzzy math'.

thelantern

Senate passes reduction
More flexibility in GEC choices with reduction

Alexia Cameron

Issue date: 5/11/07

Future Ohio State undergraduates hoping to earn a degree in four years might have an advantage. University Senate passed a resolution Thursday reducing the number of required credit hours for undergraduates.

The resolution, which called for the current 191 required hours to be reduced to 181, only received one opposing vote.

"The number 181 represents 15 credit hours a quarter for 3 quarters a year, over the course of 4 years," said Brian Winer, chair of the council on Academic Affairs, who introduced the resolution.

Let me check: 3 x 15 x 4 = 181

That's gotta be correct. Obviously whenever multiplying 3 positive integers, one of which is even, the result will be an odd number. :tongue2:

 

[Thump]

I'm still trying to convince her that she will land an equal job either way but she still thinks having the name on her degree will make a difference in how she is perceived...

You're right, she's wrong unless she wants to become a surgeon.

A nursing degree from the local community college and Johns Hopkins are pretty much equal.

 

[Golferdow01]

You're right, she's wrong unless she wants to become a surgeon.

A nursing degree from the local community college and Johns Hopkins are pretty much equal.

She's all about the "presitige". I could care less what others think about me; I care about what I think about me...oh well

 

[Thump]

She's all about the "presitige". I could care less what others think about me; I care about what I think about me...oh well

She'll be throwing her money away.

She'll get a job and be making the same salary as if she went to another school all while having twice the debt.

 

[cincibuck]

The study released today was the perfect reason college should be more affordable. College grads make $23K more a year than those with just high school degrees.

BUT... a person with a Masters tends to make less than a person with a BS and a person with a PHD tends to make less than a person with a Masters.

Why? something like 80% of the Masters degrees awarded go for education, social work, nursing. PHD means you're heading for college work and pay for professors is not anywhere near keeping up with the pay for teachers in good public school districts.

Other factors in the rising cost of education is the rising cost of health insurance for the faculty, staff and administration... a fee within a fee, so to speak.

But the biggest single factor IMO is that colleges are part of an unholy alliance between money sources, administrators, contractors and the trade unions. Buildings produce jobs and income.

Remember Jim Rhodes and his constant harping about jobs, jobs, jobs? Watch what happens when state monies dry up. Politicians will cut back on services, close state parks, trim police forces, eliminate programs for seniors, kids, people with disabilities, but they'll make sure the highway and building funds don't get trimmed. That's the holy cow of election funding.

BTW, my first quarter at OSU was fall of 1961. My tuition was $75! I had a room in Park Hall, 20 meals a week, maid service everyday and I paid less than a thousand to spend the year there. I could go home, get a job on a GM assembly line and make enough money to pay my own way through school. I pity today's student.

 

[Golferdow01]

She'll be throwing her money away.

She'll get a job and be making the same salary as if she went to another school all while having twice the debt.

You mean throwing my money away...but alas, choose your battles wisely. I have a great excuse to upgrade to a 50" HDTV if this pans out...

 

[Jagdaddy]

Remember Jim Rhodes and his constant harping about jobs, jobs, jobs? Watch what happens when state monies dry up. Politicians will cut back on services, close state parks, trim police forces, eliminate programs for seniors, kids, people with disabilities, but they'll make sure the highway and building funds don't get trimmed. That's the holy cow of election funding.

Not in Colorado. When times get crappy here, infrastructure is the first thing hit.

 

[Jagdaddy]

You mean throwing my money away...but alas, choose your battles wisely. I have a great excuse to upgrade to a 50" HDTV if this pans out...

Short-term, it's so easy to get work as a nurse that the prestige won't matter. Long-term, if she wants to get into hospital administration or something it might help.

 

[Golferdow01]

Short-term, it's so easy to get work as a nurse that the prestige won't matter. Long-term, if she wants to get into hospital administration or something it might help.

I think she just cares about impressing her family, friends, and herself. She went to a private high school that cost $12,000 a year. 75% of the graduates went to Ivy schools. Again, whole different world, but who am I to argue. She'll be making more than I will one day

 

[Jagdaddy]

I think she just cares about impressing her family, friends, and herself. She went to a private high school that cost $12,000 a year. 75% of the graduates went to Ivy schools. Again, whole different world, but who am I to argue. She'll be making more than I will one day

Consider it an investment in your eventual inheritance from those snobby rich fuckers then.