College Playoff

[Oh8ch]

Today's results will certainly fuel the fire. But if the goal of a playoff is to give every team with a sound claim to the title a chance to prove it on the field, and if we are not talking about anything more absurd than 8 teams, I ask again -

For which two of the following 10 teams can you make the argument that they don't belong?

OSU
Missouri
WVU
Oklahoma
Kansas
USC
LSU
Georgia
Va Tech
Hawaii

 

[Oh8ch]

Then give last year a try.

And don't just spout nonsense about conference champs as though that is a level playing field. Who were the 8 best teams as viewed before the bowls? Who stays home? Why?

Just because you can type an algorithm doesn't make it valid.

Ohio State 12-0
Florida 12-1
Michigan 11-1
LSU 10-2
USC 10-2
Louisville 11-1
Wisconsin 11-1
Boise State 12-0
Auburn 10-2
Oklahoma 11-2
Notre Dame 10-2
West Virginia 10-2
Wake Forest 11-2
Virginia Tech 10-2
Rutgers 10-2

 

[Best Buckeye]

they started talking about playoffs on ESPN again and the narrator said there should be one and Holtz asked " how would you decide who to put in"
and that will be the failure of any playoff plan

 

[methomps]

Today's results will certainly fuel the fire. But if the goal of a playoff is to give every team with a sound claim to the title a chance to prove it on the field, and if we are not talking about anything more absurd than 8 teams, I ask again -

For which two of the following 10 teams can you make the argument that they don't belong?

OSU
Missouri
WVU
Oklahoma
Kansas
USC
LSU
Georgia
Va Tech
Hawaii

Which would you rather have to do:

1. Tell two of those teams above that they aren't going to a playoff

2. Tell one of the teams below that they aren't getting a chance to play for the NC:

USC - undefeated
OU - undefeated
AU - undefeated

 

[schwab]

Today's results will certainly fuel the fire. But if the goal of a playoff is to give every team with a sound claim to the title a chance to prove it on the field, and if we are not talking about anything more absurd than 8 teams, I ask again -

For which two of the following 10 teams can you make the argument that they don't belong?

OSU - in, B10 champions
Missouri - out, see Hawaii
WVU - in, BLeast champions
Oklahoma - in, B12 champions
Kansas - out, see Georgia
USC - in, P10 champions
LSU - in, SEC champions
Georgia - in, voters love SEC (I prefer 11-1 Kansas)
Va Tech - in, ACC champions
Hawaii - in, 12-0

..

 

[schwab]

Then give last year a try.

And don't just spout nonsense about conference champs as though that is a level playing field. Who were the 8 best teams as viewed before the bowls? Who stays home? Why?

Just because you can type an algorithm doesn't make it valid.

Ohio State 12-0
Florida 12-1
Michigan 11-1
LSU 10-2
USC 10-2
Louisville 11-1
Wisconsin 11-1
Boise State 12-0
Auburn 10-2
Oklahoma 11-2
Notre Dame 10-2
West Virginia 10-2
Wake Forest 11-2
Virginia Tech 10-2
Rutgers 10-2

Again, whether or not it makes sense to you or sounds fair enough, you take the 6 major conference champions, you reward Boise State for running the table much as you do Hawaii this season. If you've got one spot left, let the campaign begin again! If you don't win your conference, or all of your games period, you can get in line. If Notre Dame happens to be that team, fine, but they are risking the most since they like the $$ and not conference championships. They don't get their own special rule.

EDIT: I wouldn't mind more than 8 teams. 2006 is a great reason as to why.

 

[OH10]

they started talking about playoffs on ESPN again and the narrator said there should be one and Holtz asked " how would you decide who to put in"
and that will be the failure of any playoff plan

I don't know. You seem to think human polls and computers are a good way of decided what two team deserve to play for the national title. What says they can't simply pick 8 teams?

Or a committe could decide, much like they do in the NCAA tournament.

I'm tired of people simply saying it can't be done because someone will still complain. SOMEONE ALWAYS COMPLAINS! It doesn't mean one system isn't still better than the other just because neither is perfect.

 

[PlanetFrnd]

I don't give two sh*ts what the system is so long as Tressel keeps navigating to the top of it. I know this post isn't exactly constructive, but the BCS seems to be working pretty well for the Buckeyes. It it ain't broke...

 

[Best Buckeye]

I don't know. You seem to think human polls and computers are a good way of decided what two team deserve to play for the national title. What says they can't simply pick 8 teams?

Or a committe could decide, much like they do in the NCAA tournament.

I'm tired of people simply saying it can't be done because someone will still complain. SOMEONE ALWAYS COMPLAINS! It doesn't mean one system isn't still better than the other just because neither is perfect.

1. they allready have a commitee , it's called the BCS voters
2. thats what they have now isn't it? a system that a lot of people complain about. If that's so then why change it?
3. the deal is that no system will be perfect and someone will always complain so why change it. And as I have already stated the Collegiate presidenst and the Bowls don't want to change the systems and so it won't be. So you can post as much as yu want to and keep a thread on the subject striclty for your posts and there still won't be a playoff.

 

[OH10]

1. they allready have a commitee , it's called the BCS voters

And they are morons.

2. thats what they have now isn't it? a system that a lot of people complain about. If that's so then why change it?

Because:

1. Many people, under the age of 80, believe that a playoff with 8 teams would be exciting. The reason is that people would be excited about it stems from the popularity of the NCAA tournament. I am one of those people - that is my fair opinion.

2. More marquee matchups that have meaning. Believe it or not, if you're not USC or Illinois, you are just a casual observer watching the Rose Bowl this year.

3. National champion with clearer credibility. I know you don't want to admit it, but a national champion that has to win three games against elite competition is more believable than a national champion that only had to beat Michigan, Penn State and Purdue as its toughest competition. I cannot be the only Buckeye fan who objectively knows that Ohio State played an incredibly soft schedule this year.

3. the deal is that no system will be perfect and someone will always complain so why change it. And as I have already stated the Collegiate presidenst and the Bowls don't want to change the systems and so it won't be. So you can post as much as yu want to and keep a thread on the subject striclty for your posts and there still won't be a playoff.

Actually, I'd like to think that once all of the dinosaurs have gone and passed, then we'll finally be ready for change. Right now, the old guard is simply too stubborn to admit that they're wrong.

 

[BB73]

[quote='BusNative;101464;9]I don't give two sh*ts what the system is so long as Tressel keeps navigating to the top of it. I know this post isn't exactly constructive, but the BCS seems to be working pretty well for the Buckeyes. It it ain't broke...[/quote]


Exactly. Three title games in the last 6 years? As a Buckeye fan, I'm satisfied with the system for the time being.

 

[Best Buckeye]

And they are morons.
Because:

1. Many people, under the age of 80, believe that a playoff with 8 teams would be exciting. The reason is that people would be excited about it stems from the popularity of the NCAA tournament. I am one of those people - that is my fair opinion.

2. More marquee matchups that have meaning. Believe it or not, if you're not USC or Illinois, you are just a casual observer watching the Rose Bowl this year.

3. National champion with clearer credibility. I know you don't want to admit it, but a national champion that has to win three games against elite competition is more believable than a national champion that only had to beat Michigan, Penn State and Purdue as its toughest competition. I cannot be the only Buckeye fan who objectively knows that Ohio State played an incredibly soft schedule this year.



Actually, I'd like to think that once all of the dinosaurs have gone and passed, then we'll finally be ready for change. Right now, the old guard is simply too stubborn to admit that they're wrong.

This must be the fantasy world you live in. Jt and every other Big ten coach are on that committee that you refer to as morons.
I never said that I would not like to see us beat three strong teams, and no you are not the only Buckeye fan who thinks we had a softer than usual schedule.
The truth is we beat the teams we played and others did not or they would be sitting where we are now. Wth that in mind and , agreeing with BB73, we are in the NC game again and that is fine with me and I am happy with the system if we get to be there.

 

[speed]

SEC for playoff

I am obviously biased. I am a Gator/SEC fan, etc. I do believe in settling issues on the field. It is the general consesus down here,-that a playoff would settle things once a for all. Teams with 3 losses in the SEC could even have a chance at a title,-when the teams they would be playing in the playoffs at worst couldn't be any tougher that what we already faced during the regular season. I pulled hard for tonights upsets,-so you guys could get in to face LSU or GA. I will admit it is fun to beat up on the big ten. Until more coaches like Zook that understand the type of players you need to compete at an elite level infiltrate the Big Ten,-it will just make the SEC look good by beating up on inferior players. I think your Tressel might be catching on as he secured the top linebacker out of the state of Florida.
My definition of a typical Big Ten player. Big, tough, strong, physical, extra water weight from a lack of humidity, on average .2 to .3 of a second slower than a player from the south. It isn't your fault,-you live in a climate that is not as condusive to producing as many elite athletes.
SEC player definition-Conditioned, fast, quick, strength and toughness are a given, speed, speed, speed. If you guys start getting the left over recruits from the south,-you midwesterners should be able to bring your programs up to SEC caliber.

 

[Best Buckeye]

Welcome to BP.
Maybe we should play each team in the Sec to see just where we truly rank in the pecking order, would that satisfy your desire for a playoff?
That you are biased is eminitely evident :tongue2:

 

[speed]

SEC bias

Truth is I am glad you don't play our schedule. Tressel is a smart guy. It would only take him 3 or 4 years of adjustments in recruiting to make a huge difference. If it was rubbed in his face on a daily basis,-it would be an issue everyone up there would deal with. Since it is only a brief reminder during bowl season,-out of sight,-out of mind.
If the recruiting issue was fixed,-I couldn't give anyone from the Big Ten a hard time. That wouldn't be any fun. Seriously, I don't mean any disrespect. There seems to be a million and one buckeye fans that post on our sites. I figured I would return the favor...