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buckeyesin07;1008821; said:
IMO, if you don't win your conference, you're out. Otherwise, the college football regular season becomes as pointless as the college basketball regular season. Besides, if you can't even win your own conference, you certainly aren't the best team in the nation.
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I guess this makes the OOC games meaningless.
 
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16 teams just seems like too many to me. Thats 4 more games, these kids would be playing a 16 game season. I realize its only one more game than an 8 team playoff, but it just seems like we would be elongating the season so much.

But I agree with other posters- the logistics of the thing don't really bother me that much. I just want something that isn't the media subjectively choosing the national champion based on who they like at the current time.
 
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Best Buckeye;1009183; said:
On ESPN Herbie just said that the bowl systems as it stands needs to be fixed but that a playoff systems isn't the answer, there is no need for it.
I agree.
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what do u do to fix it then? Herbie and people who want change to make it equal/more fair, but don't want a playoff, confuse me.

Not being condescending at all, how do you change the current system to make it more fair without a playoff system??
 
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billmac91;1009188; said:
what do u do to fix it then? Herbie and people who want change to make it equal/more fair, but don't want a playoff, confuse me.

Not being condescending at all, how do you change the current system to make it more fair without a playoff system??
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Herbie's on record as favoring the Plus-1 after matching 1-4 and 2-3 in the bowls.
 
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BB73;1008087; said:
Personally, I think there's another way of looking at whether or not there should be a college playoff system. And that is the basis for virtually all of my rooting interests related to college football: What will be better for Ohio State?

I love college football, but when it comes down to it, the only thing I really care about is the success of the Buckeyes.

And, since during the prior 5 seasons, tOSU has made it to the Championship Game twice, and has a better than 50-50 chance this weekend of making a third game in 6 years, I think that it's difficult to believe that a 4-team, 6-team, 8-team, 12-team, or 16-team playoff would increase tOSU's chances of winning NC's in the near future.

As Jax has pointed out, it appears that tOSU has entered a period of dominance in the Big Ten similar to those enjoyed by FSU (ACC) and Miami (Big East) a few years ago. If that's the case, I believe that the BCS format gives tOSU the best chances of winning another NC or two in the next few years.

And since I believe that the BCS is good for tOSU's NC chances, I am not bothered by any of the perceived problems in the system, or swayed by any arguments against it.

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Jaxbuck;1008099; said:
GPA
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Done



billmac91;1009199; said:
Isn't that a playoff in essence though?

1 vs 4

2 vs 3

winners play each other
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Yes - a plus one is a play-off. After that, you're just quibbling over the number of games/teams in the play-off.

I have been a proponent of a play-off in the past; but as long as the exigencies illuminated in BB73's post remain in effect, forget it.
 
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DaddyBigBucks;1009288; said:
I have been a proponent of a play-off in the past; but as long as the exigencies illuminated in BB73's post remain in effect, forget it.
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That is based on speculation. I think Tressel could easily match if not exceed the domination Youngstown State had with the access to athletes, our coaching staff, and the facilities he is afforded. What one person thinks is best isn't necessarily what another might think. For the immediate fan, we can look back at a mini-dynasty and get a sense of satisfaction like the Hurricane fans or the Seminole fans--but look at those fans now...

I'd rather see Tressel pull a legit dynasty off and one of the only ways you get the media to recognize that is by outright earning their respect. I think in this way a playoff better serves Ohio State. We'll put those speed myths to rest and we'll win several National Championships I'm sure. I don't think Tressel had it any easier against Marshall, McNeese State, or Boise State. He put YSU on the radar to jump in to FBS because of the way he beat future FBS teams.
 
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DaddyBigBucks;1009288; said:
I have been a proponent of a play-off in the past; but as long as the exigencies illuminated in BB73's post remain in effect, forget it.
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Problem I have with this is it only last as long as OSU keeps that dominence going which is likely to end soon.

Miami dominated a bad Big East and FSU dominated a bad ACC. The Big Ten is not like either of those conferences.

I don't see how a plus 1 hurts OSU's chances of getting a NC. I guess of course you are worried about OSU being able to beat good teams in a row enough to win the whole thing.

I will take any NC they get but to be honest I would rather they earn it by running through good teams rather than winning it on an all or nothing game against a team that may not deserve to be there.

Plus since we already know we cannot count on the Big 10 chiefs to pull their collective heads out of their asses and extend the season a bit longer any Big 10 team that makes it to the NCG will have a long wait period which to me does them no real good.

We have 5-7 weeks off while others have maybe 4-5. That is not in our favor. It is not in anybodies favor to be laid off that long. To contiue to play high quaility football you need to keep the juices flowing and these long layoffs do nobody any good.
 
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Lockup;1009345; said:
Problem I have with this is it only last as long as OSU keeps that dominence going which is likely to end soon. ...
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If our conference improves to the point where a play-off is the only way to have a championship, then I will go back to supporting a play-off.

That is precisely what I meant by "as long as the exigencies ... remain in effect". And while I see the Big Ten improving starting next season, I don't see our dominance of it ending soon. We have natural advantages over every other team in the conference, and we have a better coach. Barring unforeseen tragedy, that isn't going to change soon.

As far as I'm concerned, if we win crystal footballs, the system is irrelevant to me.
 
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I think this is a lot of the problem with instituting the playoff format: teams that are doing well and getting recognition won't support it. If we were to, by some miraculous chance, get leaped and missed out on the National Championship game I think people would change their tune. Every season there are teams that feel they deserved to be there and I'm sure many of us felt that way the year we pasted Ntre ame. Who here doesn't think we would have had a crystal ball that season the way we were hitting on all cylinders then?
 
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