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Buckeye513;2163080; said:
Not necessarily. People who think OSU has a problem with t-shirt alumni need to venture south.

Or not. Just take my word for it.
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Sure that's a big factor as well. I'm sure many SEC fans would be shocked to learn that there's a school of book learnin' associated with their local semi-pro team.

The point (outside of the fun of using hyperbole to make fun of our inbred & ignorant neighbors to the south) is that the long term trends are a heck of a lot more complex than being put forth by many SEC proponents & media hacks.

Fans of many of the B1G schools tend to stay strong along familial lines. An Ohio State (or Wisconsin) family moving to Atlanta isn't going to suddenly become a clan of Georgia backers even over a number of generations.

Migration of B1G families to the south is just as likely to be a bigger boon for the B1G (BTN on basic cable in Georgia woot!) than it is to be a net gain for the SEC.
 
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Muck;2163530; said:
Fans of many of the B1G schools tend to stay strong along familial lines. An Ohio State (or Wisconsin) family moving to Atlanta isn't going to suddenly become a clan of Georgia backers even over a number of generations.

Migration of B1G families to the south is just as likely to be a bigger boon for the B1G (BTN on basic cable in Georgia woot!) than it is to be a net gain for the SEC.
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That's true if you assume that individuals are only influenced by television coverage.
It's also true if you're convinced that migration to the south has absolutely no bearing on college decisions.
Essentially, the Iowa family moving to Charleston, South Carolina is sending their children to Iowa, regardless of the out of state tuition costs and the appeal and diversity of USC, Clemson, College of Charleston...etc

The "once a fan, always a fan" mantra is misguided. An encyclopedia of influences push a person in the direction of the sports team of choice (and college of choice I might add).

Ultimately, without OOS tuition/applicant numbers, we're likely both [censored]ing in the wind.
If on the 10 year anniversary of the B1G network and after multiple years of sun belt migration, you can show me the numbers of applicants to Ohio State from Florida, Georgia, South Carolina, Alabama, Tennessee, Louisiana and Arkansas have increased - I'll be more convinced and will conceed the point.

Furthermore, I do not believe that the B1G will ever have a dynamic, strategic advantage over SEC region recruits because of the influence of the B1G network.
 
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MililaniBuckeye;2165401; said:
So now who's going to go tell the LA Kings that they're not deserving champions?
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That depends on how you define "champion" and how you want to transfer that definition to college football.

Were the Kings the best team in the NHL throughout the entire season? Obviously not. Were they the best team throughout the playoffs? Obviously yes.

So, in college football, do you want to crown "champion" the best team throughout the entire year? Or do you want to crown the team that is the best for the last series of games in a playoff?

The answer to that question as applied to college football is the biggest sticking point, in my opinion.
 
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Buckeye86;2165418; said:
That depends on how you define "champion" and how you want to transfer that definition to college football.

Were the Kings the best team in the NHL throughout the entire season? Obviously not. Were they the best team throughout the playoffs? Obviously yes.

So, in college football, do you want to crown "champion" the best team throughout the entire year? Or do you want to crown the team that is the best for the last series of games in a playoff?

The answer to that question as applied to college football is the biggest sticking point, in my opinion.
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So, there are no "real champions" in the NFL, MLB, NBA, NHL, or MLS?
 
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MililaniBuckeye;2165495; said:
So, there are no "real champions" in the NFL, MLB, NBA, NHL, or MLS?
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I don't think there is any debate as to whether they are the champion.

Whether they were the best team, on the other hand......
 
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Buckeye86;2165506; said:
And there is no perfect solution to that problem, just different ways of approaching it.
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Correct. My point is the best overall solution is the one that every other major sport, and level of college football except I-A, uses...playoffs.
 
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MililaniBuckeye;2165526; said:
Correct. My point is the best overall solution is the one that every other major sport, and level of college football except I-A, uses...playoffs.
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I think it is well established that you support a playoff system.

I also believe it has been made clear many times over why people don't support a playoff system without reservations- particularly concerning a large playoff that marginalizes the importance of the regular season.

In my opinion, a balance has to be struck between any playoff system and maintaining a robust regular season featuring premier out-of-conference match ups.

As they say, the devil is in the details.
 
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Buckeye86;2165544; said:
In my opinion, a balance has to be struck between any playoff system and maintaining a robust regular season featuring premier out-of-conference match ups.

As they say, the devil is in the details.
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Agreed. I used to be a wholesale supporter of the playoff, but have come around to the point of agreeing with your stance completely.

I think a 4 team playoff, with the 4 being the highest ranked conference champions of the (maybe 6?) top tier conferences potentially strikes the best balance.
 
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Buckeye86;2165544; said:
I also believe it has been made clear many times over why people don't support a playoff system without reservations- particularly concerning a large playoff that marginalizes the importance of the regular season.
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And it has been made clear that a playoff does not marginalize the importance of the regular season...it allows for proper playoff seeding. Nobody here was complaining when we backdoored into the 2007 NC game despite losing at home in the next to last game of the season.

When you have 120+ teams in FBS (I-A), it's virtually impossible to pick two teams that are clearly above the others. It also allows a strong team that may have had a loss or two early in the season to compete with a not-so-strong team that have have run the table against a weak schedule.
 
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