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College Playoff

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zincfinger;2147299; said:
And there's a reasonable rationale for spending your September beating the Austin Peay's of the world 85-3. But I think there's a practical downside, too. Wisconsin's gotten strong enough that they can compete on the big stage, and I feel like the athletic department is maybe holding the program back a little bit by basically limiting the number of big, high-profile games the team can play in. The profile of the program would be raised if they played an Oklahoma, or even an NC State in September, instead of playing a bunch of games no one cares about.
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Agree - and I think it's hurt them in their bowl game performances.
 
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Buckeye86;2147304; said:
But how are you supposed to get beat in bowl games if you lose to an out of conference opponent or two each year?

And actually, I just came up with a theory about Wisconsin football that I'd like to bounce off of you for a moment.

Your brand of offense works a lot better against teams that are battered and bruised in the heart of the conference schedule. Against fresh teams, not so much. Thus your struggles early in the year against shitty teams and in bowl games after significant recuperation time for the opponent.

Schedule quality healthy opponents at the beginning of the year at your own risk.

Thoughts?
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I realize you were having a little fun with Bucky, but I think bowl records are often oversimplified to give a very distorted picture of team or conference quality. Beating a mediocre opponent in the who-gives-a-damn bowl does not make you better than a team who lost to an elite opponent in the Sugar Bowl. But to your point, Alvarez actually had a very good bowl record, including 3-0 in the Rose Bowl. Bielema does not. Alvarez didn't do this, but I would argue that playing some quality non-conference opponents in the early season tends to prepare teams for tough competition in the late regular season and the bowl season. Facing someone with a pulse in September will make Wisconsin better in January. And with that, I'll stop trying to convert the college playoff thread into the why-is-Wisconsin-a-September-pansy thread.

edit: Just saw Nightmaresdad's post. I'm basically saying what he, much more succinctly, already said.
 
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zincfinger;2147284; said:
Personally, I think that criticism applies to Wisconsin more than to the SEC. I don't really have a problem with it if SEC teams only occasionally play tough non-conference games - and some of them do typically have one big-name non-conference opponent per year.
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Yeah, some teams do now and then. But in general they don't. I hope the trend continues though of them playing at least someone in the non-conference with a pulse.


Zurp;2147287; said:
I think my problem with the non-home sites is the same everyone else probably has: it's basically ensuring "home-like" sites for southern teams. Plus, some fanbases don't travel well. Blarg - I REALLY hate this plan.

Dear Jim Delaney,
You hit home runs with the Big Ten Network and by getting Nebraska into the Big Ten. But then you sucked a big one with the way the divisions were set up, and then again with the lousy names of the divisions. You have time to turn it around - fight for home stadium semi-finals. Don't wuss out on this one.
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I am hoping if it isn't on-campus it is at least open for bidding.

Semi-finals in Indy? You still upset? Detroit, Minnesota, St Louis? What if that is where the Championship game? You still that upset if Delaney can at least get that for us?

One side note, if the bowls are involved in this, they better bend them over the barrel with no more ticket guarentees and covering school expenses on travel and such.
 
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Bucknut24;2147354; said:
up to 29 comments in 50 minutes :lol: god forbid I take a job at the mighty SEC
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What do you have to jab at them about?
No SEC Fans are terrified of traveling to STL or Indy for football games?

If the Georgia Dome gets torn down for a new Falcons Stadium (as many predict), the Edward Jones Dome (in addition to Jerry World) are leading contenders for the SEC Title game. And nobody is complaining.
 
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I said how I was mad about it prob won't be homefield adv for playoffs, and I took a jab (cause I knew it would get them riled up
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) and said, "God forbid the SEC may have to travel to a big school outside the south"
 
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I was mostly just trolling wit the sec comment..because obviously it worked....it's not about getting SEC to travel obviously, I just think that would be the best thing, to have homefield adv..

I can't imagine what the atmosphere would be like if OSU traveled to Bama or vice versa, and winner plays in the title game, would be unreal
 
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BigWoof31;2147296; said:
Curious - is he the only conference commish fighting for this policy?
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I actually don't know what Delaney's role in this is, or any other commissioner. I just don't want him to screw this up.

Piney;2147327; said:
I am hoping if it isn't on-campus it is at least open for bidding.

Semi-finals in Indy? You still upset? Detroit, Minnesota, St Louis? What if that is where the Championship game? You still that upset if Delaney can at least get that for us?
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I don't know if I'd use the word "upset". I'd use "annoyed" or "irritated" or "besmirched". That last one is only because it's a funny word - not so much based on accuracy, though. And yeah - I'd still be annoyed. But probably not as much. And I'm not jabbing at the SEC for not wanting to travel out of region - that can be saved for a thread that is more fun.

I think that if we're going to go to playoffs (and, although I've been fighting it, we are) at least give teams home-field advantage until the final game. It isn't exactly home-field advantage if both teams are given the same number of tickets. And if one of those teams has a poor national following, or that team's fanbase "doesn't travel well", it doesn't matter much how far away it is. I really think it needs to be a home site for the better-seeded team, with that team getting 95% (or whatever is customary) of the tickets.
 
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