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College Playoff

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Bucknut24;2087356; said:
It's not perfect, you're not gonna get a perfect system, I just think this is fair...teams 12-16 don't deserve a shot at playoffs, regular season becomes meaningless almost
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One of the great myths about college football is that every game matters. The fact is, the overwhelming majority of games do not matter at all when talking about championships. A playoff actually makes more games meaningful to the championship process.

As it stands now, from a national championship perspective the regular season is already meaningless for 90% of the schools before the season begins. By the end of September, that percentage grows to about 98%.
 
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IronBuckI;2087359; said:
Currently, CCGs are part of the rule allowing a 13th game. I don't have the link anymore, and my lunch is almost over, so I can't look it up.

This is essentially what the rule states: In order to have a CCG as your 13th game, a conference must have at least 12 teams, with at least 6 teams in each division. Each division must play a round robin within the division, and the CCG must be between the two teams with the best conference record from each division.

That, of course, is just the current rule, and I imagine there will be a lot of rule changes if playoffs are added to the schedule. The manner in which conference champions can be determined will likely be part of those changes.
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Thanks - it's NCAA rule 17.9.1.2 - which does state that CCGs must match winners of divisions with at least 6 members who each played everybody else in their division.
 
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Here's a scenario I envision with a plus one.

Team loses their star QB or RB due to injury at the end of a final four game and then goes on to lose the National Title game with a depleted team and that team's fans pine for the "old" system.
 
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BuckeyeMac;2089288; said:
I think an 8 team playoff is perfect. You do anymore, it is rewarding teams that shouldn't be in the playoff to begin with.

8 team playoff = 4 major BCS bowl games (as it currently is)
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Then, keep the old traditional bowl tie-ins and do a +4. There would still be a slot for the truck drivers if they were in the top 8 of the final ranking (whatever that would be) and you preserve a Big Ten-PAC10 Rose Bowl.

The +4 could be in major NFL cities broken down regionally and rotated among NE and Great Lakes the Southeast and Texas and the West

You could have the semis in Atlanta and New York, then the finals in San Fran. Next year, semis might be in Miami and San Diego and the final in Chicago. The following year, semis in Indy and Seattle and the final in Dallas.
 
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ORD_Buckeye;2089294; said:
Then, keep the old traditional bowl tie-ins and do a +4. There would still be a slot for the truck drivers if they were in the top 8 of the final ranking (whatever that would be) and you preserve a Big Ten-PAC10 Rose Bowl.

The +4 could be in major NFL cities broken down regionally and rotated among NE and Great Lakes the Southeast and Texas and the West

You could have the semis in Atlanta and New York, then the finals in San Fran. Next year, semis might be in Miami and San Diego and the final in Chicago. The following year, semis in Indy and Seattle and the final in Dallas.
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But who would go see a game in Chi-town in the winter? [Raises hand]
 
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kn1f3party;2086772; said:
And for all of those traditionalists out there, can you honestly say as each year goes by you maintain or gain enthusiasm for the post season?
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I don't really know why you're trying to pass the current situation off on the "traditionalists". But as the duly-elected representative of the traditionalists, I believe I can say, don't even try to push that off on us. You motherfuckers are responsible for this shit in the first place, and will be responsible for it's degradation henceforth. Accept your responsibility.
 
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http://www.chicagotribune.com/sport...yoff-with-home-games-20120206,0,4747499.story

The Big Ten is not only ready to listen to proposals regarding a national four-team football playoff, league and school officials are kicking around an intriguing idea.

Sources told the Tribune that a Big Ten plan would remove the top four teams from the BCS bowl pool and have semifinal games played on the college campus of the higher seed. That would do away with the facade of “neutral” sites such as New Orleans, Miami and Pasadena, Calif., and ease travel concern for fans.

The championship game then could be bid out, like the Super Bowl.
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What'll be interesting is if the PAC schools' vested interest in avoiding cold weather games trumps their longstanding willingness to be joined at the hip to the Big Ten on such matters. As long as he can keep the PAC in line, we'll have essential veto power over the playoff. So, it comes down to if the rest of the country wants their playoff then they have to agree to the possibility of playing in Columbus, AA or Madison in December.

Alternative is that he's using the home field demand as a bargaining chip to deal away down the line.
 
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"We have to listen to the fans; we cannot be tone-deaf," said Northwestern athletics director Jim Phillips, who chairs the Big Ten's Administrators Council.
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Oh, I believe they're listening. I just don't believe that what they're listening to is the fans.


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SEC commish Mike Slive doesn't sound excited about Delany's playoff proposal. I guess they need to weigh the prospects of more money against the chances of having to play a semifinal game in the cold weather.

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Slive: BCS playoff still a few years off

SEC leader says discussion needed

NASHVILLE, Tenn. ? Mike Slive helped propose a ?plus-one? plan in 2008 to determine a national champion in football, but he said yesterday that actual change remains a couple of years away ? even if an agreement is reached on changes to the Bowl Championship Series. The Southeastern Conference commissioner said a decision on a new format could be made later this year but cautioned that it?s premature to speculate on what changes might be made. He said that conference commissioners, school presidents and athletic directors need time to analyze plans ? such as one that calls for a four-team playoff ? and discussions are needed among the six BCS conferences.
?Really, a lot of this discussion is premature, and I want to respect the process that we?re in,? Slive told members of the Nashville Sports Council during a question-and-answer session. ?We?ve had four-year formats since we started. We?ve done it on the basis of four years, so each four-year period you have to sit down and decide what format is going to be going forward. So we have decided to sit down and talk about this from every different side.?

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Wasn't Delaney one of the people AGAINST a playoff? Now he comes out with this plan for a 4-team playoff, which really isn't very elaborate, and he wants the world to think its his plan?

Delaney led the charge to get instant-replay reviews in college football. (Or, the Big Ten did - I can't say for sure it was Delaney.)
Delaney led the charge for the Big Ten Network.
I'm not giving him credit if this plan becomes reality.

By the way, as far as the actual plan goes, I like it. I am against playoffs, but if there has to be one (there will be one, someday), I'd want to see the national championship game at a "neutral" site, and all rounds leading up to it at the site of the higher seeded team. I don't want to see the Rose Bowl become the site of 1 vs. 8, the Orange Bowl the site of 2 vs. 7, the Punkin' Chunkin' Bowl the site of the winners of those two, etc. The bowl games should be like the NIT in basketball - completely separate from the playoffs.

Just my IMO.
 
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