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Pac-12, Big Ten favors limited playoff format that could alter BCS

Athletic directors of the newly expanded Big Ten and Pac-12 conferences found consensus on a "plus-one" football national-championship proposal at meetings early this week that could signal movement toward a revamped Bowl Championship Series.

The athletic directors, meeting in Newport Beach, Calif., discussed several possible postseason football formats, including the status quo. It's part of a process to give conference commissioners input from their leagues for possible changes to the BCS after its TV contract runs out in January 2014.
The proposed format the ADs favored in a straw vote calls for adding a BCS bowl, probably the Cotton, and seeding the top four teams, which would play semifinals in two BCS bowls on a rotating basis. Presumably, the current BCS formula still would be used to rank teams. Winners would advance to a title game in what has become known as a "plus-one" format.

In this format, the Rose Bowl wouldn't host semifinal games in exchange for the right to preserve an annual matchup of the Big Ten and Pac-12, but would host the title game every five years.


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Could the BCS add a "plus one?"

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A report in the Seattle Times on Friday says that the athletic directors of the schools in the Big Ten and Pac-12 took a straw poll, and they would be in favor of altering the current BCS system.

Those alterations?

Bringing in a fifth BCS bowl game -- likely the Cotton Bowl -- and then moving to a "plus one" format in which the top four teams in the BCS rankings would partake in a mini-playoff of sorts.

The semifinals would take place in two of the BCS bowl games on a rotating basis with the winners moving on to the national championship game.

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All teams from the ACC, PAC, B1G, B12, and BEast, should join the almighty SEC.

Benefits:

- The conference championship could serve as the De facto national championship (which is what they currently claim anyway).

- No one would complain about over-signing (because all the major teams could then get away with it)

- The SEC can one day claim they've won xxx,xxx national championships in a row (and everyone would be so proud)!


Cons:

- Teams from the new SEC might actually have to play somewhere other than the south (and in cold weather...and perhaps even in...snow).

- There's not enough teams in the Sun Belt to accommodate the new SEC conference teams (but there would still be plenty of D1-AA teams :))!
 
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I've always been under the impression that Jim Delany has been one of, if not the single biggest, opponent of a playoff. As a devout playoff advocate, I have trouble balancing my wishes with the intentions of the Commissioner of my new conference.
 
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Nicknam4;1968952; said:
Love the +1 idea. Gives two more teams a shot at the title without ruining the bowl tradition.
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No it doesn't. All it does is pretend that we are able to "solve" which two teams "should" play for the title after the bowl season rather than before it. It's actually a pretty stupid idea, in my opinion, but it'll give me one more football game to watch, so fuck if I care.
 
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Of all people I hate to be the one to bump this thread, but as I once again here folks whining about how we need a playoff to "fix" the most popular sport on the planet (and in particular to avoid an all SEC championship game) I couldn't resist.

The devil is in the details folks. What is the plan that would address where we are at this moment?


In the current BCS standing only four BCS conferences are represented in the top 12 teams. Six of the top 9 in the AP are from just two conferences.

Do we drop down to #23 to pick up the Big Least? Do we drop Arkansas to retain space for mighty Houston (you know Houston, they are Illinios after playing back to back, weak, six game schedules).

Of course, we don't really know anything until it is "proven on the field". That is why this weekend MSU plays Wisconsin and Clemson plays Virginia Tech.

I watch a lot of college football and as much as I hate to say it there are not two better teams than LSU and Alabama. It is as clear as it has been in some time. Run them through an 8 team playoff and you might get a different NC game, but you wont get one that is more deserved.


Talk among yourselves.
 
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I have no problem with a playoff seeded like this:

SEC Champ - Best non-BCS or Big East Team, whichever is seeded higher
SEC At-large - ACC Champ
B1G Champ - PAC-12 Champ
Other at large (Stanford?) - BIg 12-2 Champ

Winner of Game 1 plays Game 4 winner, twp plays three. Presuming no major upsets, a good scenario ends up looking like (I think)

LSU - Boise
Alabama - Clemson or VT
Wisky/MSU - Oregon
Stanford - Oklahoma State/Oklahoma

I think that's a fair playoff. Win that, and you're the best team in the country.

I wouldn't make the seeds automatic for a conference win unless you're already top 12 in the BCS. If you are, then you're in and the rest of the seeds are filled by BCS rank from #1 on down.

So let's say that LSU loses to Georgia. Alabama would move to BCS #1 and get an at-large. Georgia wouldn't make the top 10, so they're not in. Maybe LSU drops to #8, so they either squeeze in as the last seed or are out completely.

UCLA never gets in no matter what happens against Oregon. All they can do is drop the Ducks out and take a trophy back home to Westwood.

Major BCS bowls would be the site of round #1, and would rotate the second round and the championship. Ideally, you'd make sure that the western bowls (Fiesta, Rose) would get one of the second games and the eastern (Sugar, Orange) the other. Championship flips back and forth between coasts, so only one bowl site gets left out of the later rounds per year, the other three getting two games.

What do I win? :)
 
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BrutusBobcat;2053417; said:
I have no problem with a playoff seeded like this:

SEC Champ - Best non-BCS or Big East Team, whichever is seeded higher
SEC At-large - ACC Champ
B1G Champ - PAC-12 Champ
Other at large (Stanford?) - BIg 12-2 Champ

Winner of Game 1 plays Game 4 winner, twp plays three. Presuming no major upsets, a good scenario ends up looking like (I think)

LSU - Boise
Alabama - Clemson or VT
Wisky/MSU - Oregon
Stanford - Oklahoma State/Oklahoma

I think that's a fair playoff. Win that, and you're the best team in the country.

I wouldn't make the seeds automatic for a conference win unless you're already top 12 in the BCS. If you are, then you're in and the rest of the seeds are filled by BCS rank from #1 on down.

So let's say that LSU loses to Georgia. Alabama would move to BCS #1 and get an at-large. Georgia wouldn't make the top 10, so they're not in. Maybe LSU drops to #8, so they either squeeze in as the last seed or are out completely.

UCLA never gets in no matter what happens against Oregon. All they can do is drop the Ducks out and take a trophy back home to Westwood.

Major BCS bowls would be the site of round #1, and would rotate the second round and the championship. Ideally, you'd make sure that the western bowls (Fiesta, Rose) would get one of the second games and the eastern (Sugar, Orange) the other. Championship flips back and forth between coasts, so only one bowl site gets left out of the later rounds per year, the other three getting two games.

What do I win? :)
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Just a clarification. The BCS berths that go the BCS #1 and BCS #2, as well as potentially to BCS #3 or BCS #4 (likely in Stanford's case this year), and the bid to the top non-AQ Conference Champion in the BCS top-12 (likely Houston), are all AUTOMATIC BCS bids. Only after all of those and the other conference champion automatic bids are given out are the At-large bids issued to those who have qualified, but haven't earned automatic inclusion into the BCS.

If Georiga wins the SEC CCG, Bama and LSU are still BCS #1 and #2, Stanford ends up either #3 or #4, and Houston wins the C-USA CCG, there will be 3 SEC teams inthe BCS, and zero At-large bids issued this year. Which would suck for TSUN if they make the top-14 to qualify for an At-large bid if any were available.

But that means there would be 4 non-AQ conference champions that all earned Automatic bids, rather than At-large bids.
 
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