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College Football Playoff (2015-16 Season)

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Jaxbuck said:
question becomes the calculus of OSU's draw vs that of the incremental west coast viewers gained because of Stanford

Lets say Clemson loses and they seed it Bama, MSU, OU, X

Is Stanford vs Bama going to outdraw OSU Bama II?
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I think my point is weaker if it's stanford or osu for the 4th spot, and you may be right there. I think if Bama loses and gets left out and you make it a very Midwestern field, their interest will plummet.

Ohio is the premiere sports market in America hands down for all sports. They'll tune in with no osu berth and watch Bama Iowa (or random espn2 Wednesday evening sports). The sec will not be as likely to watch the playoffs if Bama is not participating
MililaniBuckeye said:
Not sure what part of "the most watched college football game of the year" is so confusing. If more people watched the Sparty game than any other college football game, in late November, they'll sure as hell watch the rematch in the NCG. Our game against Oregon in the championship game was the most-watched college football game in history, despite neither team being from a prime market.
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I'm well aware of how compelling osu is. I'm also aware of how insulated the southeastern sports fan is and how much less Espn they'll watch this winter if their birthright is denied by the committee.
 
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jwinslow said:
I think my point is weaker if it's stanford vs osu. I think it's much more compelling if Bama loses.

Ohio is the premiere sports market in America hands down for all sports. They'll tune in for Bama Iowa (or random espn2 Wednesday evening sports). The sec will not be as loyal in watching osu Iowa.
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gotcha. interesting

let me think on that one
 
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jwinslow said:
I think if Bama loses and gets left out and you make it a very Midwestern field, their interest will plummet.
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If Clemson stays in it and Bama loses lets say...you don't think they keep the interest of the CSA?

1.Clemson vs 4. OSU

or

1. Clemson vs 4. Stanford

You lose the south and gain back west coast because of Stanford more than the overall national draw of OSU due to either hate/like them?

I just don't know that I'd want scenario #2 if I am a financial stakeholder in the CFP
 
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EidoloN said:
How do you think Bama is guaranteed? Whole body of work, I'm pretty sure we have Bama beat on that.
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How?

There is no doubt they've played a tougher schedule, and looked impressive in more games. The B1G may be stronger than the SEC this year, but we didn't play a good chunk of what is making the B1G better this year. Tennessee, Wisconsin, LSU, MissSt, and Georgia may not be top 20 teams. But they are all top 35 teams. How many teams have we beat that you could say are top 35? Probably just Michigan. Maybe Penn State if you really want to stretch it.

There is zero chance, and zero reason for us to get in over Alabama. Who will add another win against Florida, that is better than any team we have beat outside of Michigan.

Oklahoma on the other hand, with all the breaks they got as to when they played teams regarding injuries to QBs and such...now there is an argument there.

But the committee won't switch the positions of two teams when neither played. Nor should they. They would lose all credibility.


Only way is in is an upset, and then to hope they they think we are unequivocally better than Stanford or UNC if those two teams win.

Only guarantee of us being in is if USC, Florida, and Clemson win. And even then, they may give Florida a look. But likely won't.

Other than that scenero, we are banking on them liking us over an ACC champ UNC, a 1 loss Clemson, or a Pac12 champ Stanford. And none of those things are certain.

One thing that is certain is that if Clemson and Bama win, then the playoff is set. Clemson, Bama, OU, and B1G.
 
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Jaxbuck said:
If Clemson stays in it and Bama loses lets say...you don't think they keep the interest of the CSA?

1.Clemson vs 4. OSU

or

1. Clemson vs 4. Stanford

You lose the south and gain back west coast because of Stanford more than the overall national draw of OSU due to either hate/like them?

I just don't know that I'd want scenario #2 if I am a financial stakeholder in the CFP
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I think your rebuttal is a good one, though maybe more for the cfp than Disney.


I think the cfp wants osu and made up pretend rules to justify it last year. They'll do it again if it's mildly feasible. And frankly, them ticking off America (especially the rebels) would fasttrack the biggest cash windfall, the 8 team playoff.

What the bloviating entertainment network wants is another matter.
 
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Re: tv ratings let me simplify: Last year the ratings were huge because of Ohio State's fan base obviously, plus Alabama's/SEC fan base. And the playoff was a novelty last year so that added extra viewers. Also, imo, the two teams which people will tune in hoping they lose are Ohio State and Notre Dame. So you have the pro fan base and the anti fan base.

Which is why an Ohio State/Notre Dame match-up will always be a huge ratings winner. The only reason I watch Notre Dame the past (30) years is hoping they lose. Not interested in 'Bama/Oklahoma/Clemson et al.

The irony re: Notre Dame is the '60s/'70s I was a ND fan because my mom is Irish/Catholic and grew up in the same neighborhood as Ara Parseghian in Akron. Of course Ara was neither Irish or Catholic, I digress. Indeed, ND doesn't care about religion per se, except the religion of winning every football game.

So ND is a lot like Ohio State and 'Bama as Stanford just scored another td ~ 34-22 Stanford.
 
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The cold reality is becoming clearer. While we screamed Beck, Beck, Beck, we discounted the fact that Sparty rushed for 203 yards on a day where the weather was bad and they HAD to run because Cook was out. Iowa is holding Sparty's rushing in check, indoors, with Cook.

Unfortunately, our team never really looked like we expected until the scUM game. By then it was too late. We deserve our fate at this point, no matter how good we think our team could be - the results just weren't enough to make the CFP this season.
 
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shiloh said:
Re: tv ratings let me simplify: Last year the ratings were huge because of Ohio State's fan base obviously, plus Alabama's/SEC fan base. And the playoff was a novelty last year so that added extra viewers. Also, imo, the two teams which people will tune in hoping they lose are Ohio State and Notre Dame. So you have the pro fan base and the anti fan base.

Which is why an Ohio State/Notre Dame match-up will always be a huge ratings winner. The only reason I watch Notre Dame the past (30) years is hoping they lose. Not interested in 'Bama/Oklahoma/Clemson et al.

The irony re: Notre Dame is the '60s/'70s I was a ND fan because my mom is Irish/Catholic and grew up in the same neighborhood as Ara Parseghian in Akron. Of course Ara was neither Irish or Catholic, I digress. Indeed, ND doesn't care about religion per se, except the religion of winning every football game.

So ND is a lot like Ohio State and 'Bama as Stanford just scored another td ~ 34-22 Stanford.
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Yeah. They have a ratings loser this year. Clemson attracts no one. Everyone is sick of Bama and even in aec country they think they're overrated. Msu is the second biggest team in their state and Oklahomas fan base is migrating away. Best espn can hope for is everyone tuning in to watch Bama lose. OSU stanford in the rose bowl might be highest rating. OSU nd in fiesta would definitely be highest rating.
 
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TampaBuckeyes said:
Yeah. They have a ratings loser this year. Clemson attracts no one. Everyone is sick of Bama and even in aec country they think they're overrated. Msu is the second biggest team in their state and Oklahomas fan base is migrating away. Best espn can hope for is everyone tuning in to watch Bama lose. OSU stanford in the rose bowl might be highest rating. OSU nd in fiesta would definitely be highest rating.
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Iowa going to the rose wouldn't shock me.
 
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MaxBuck said:
Actually, ESPN loses huge revenue if Ohio State misses the playoffs.
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Agree. We have the largest fan base in the country. Southeast will watch football because there is nothing else to do, and I don't even think there is a major media market there (less texas). I think Ohio state has more representation in the ACC region than clemson. Plus ACC is not a piggy back conference like the sec, they will all just switch to watchin bball
 
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