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College Football Playoff (2015-16 Season)

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To added on the SEC musical chairs game the polls are playing is comical.....one clearly undeserving team loses again and drops out, and they throw another SEC team that has no business being ranked right back win.....this week with the AP its LSU
 
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buckeyemania11 said:
To added on the SEC musical chairs game the polls are playing is comical.....one clearly undeserving team loses again and drops out, and they throw another SEC team that has no business being ranked right back win.....this week with the AP its LSU
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The quota for minimum sec team in ap top 25 appears to be established at 4. I would like to start a formal petition to have that number reduced to 3.
 
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#1 Clemson beat all of the following.
Wofford - FCS
App. State
Louisville
#9 Notre Dame
GA Tech
BC
Miami
NC State
#10 FSU
Syracuse
Wake Forest
S. Carolina
Plays #8 UNC in CCG

#2 Alabama
#25 Wisconsin
Mid Tenn St
LOST #16 Ole Miss
ULM
Georgia
Arkansas
Texas A&M
Tennessee
#23 LSU
Miss St.
CHSO - FCS
Auburn
Plays #18 Florida in CCG

#3 Oklahoma
Akron
Tennessee
Tulsa
W. Virginia
LOST Texas
K. State
Texas Tech
Kansas
Iowa State
#12 Baylor
#11 TCU
#14 Okie State
NO CCG

#4 Iowa beat all of the following.
ILL State - FCS
Iowa State
Pitt
N. Texas
#25 Wisconsin
Illinois
#13 Northwestern
Maryland
Indiana
Minnesota
Purdue
Nebraska
Plays #5 Michigan State in CCG

#5 Michigan State
W. Michigan
#15 Oregon
Air Force
C. Michigan
Pudue
Rutgers
#19 Michigan
Indiana
LOST Nebraska
Maryland
#6 Ohio State
Penn State
Plays #4 Iowa in CCG

#6 Ohio State
VA Tech
Hawaii
N. Illinois
W. Michigan
Indiana
Maryland
Penn State
Rutgers
Minnesota
Illinois
LOST #5 Michigan State
#19 Michigan
NO CCG

These teams also have a shot at the CFP.

#7 Stanford
LOST #13 Northwestern
UCF
#24 USC - Will play them again in CCG.
Oregon State
Arizona
UCLA
Washington
Washington State
Colorado
LOST #15 Oregon
Cal
#9 Notre Dame
Plays #24 USC in CCG

#8 North Carolina
LOST S. Carolina
NCAT - FCS
Illinois
Delaware - FCS
GA Tech
Wake Forest
UVA
Pitt
Duke
Miami
VA Tech
NC State
Plays #1 Clemson in CCG
 
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Zurp said:
I can't shake the feeling that Michigan's blunder vs. Michigan State is what is keeping Ohio State out of the playoffs. Assuming all other games happened identically to the way they really did, Michigan ends up 7-1. Ohio State ends up 7-1. Michigan State ends up 6-2. Tie-breaker is the winner of Ohio State-Michigan game, instead of Ohio State-Michigan State game.
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Even when we beat their asses they still find a way to fuck us over. :spitfire:
 
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Clemson - Undefeated and beat two currently ranked teams. However, played a FCS team. Plays #8 in CCG. (Deserves to be #1)

Bama - 11-1 and beat two currently ranked teams while losing to another. Also played a FCS team. Plays #18 in CCG. (Should be #4 at best)

Oklahoma - 11-1 and beat three currently ranked teams the last three games. LOST to Texas (4-7). No CCG. (#3 looks good, maybe #2)

Iowa - Undefeated and beat two currently ranked teams while playing a FCS team. Plays #5 in CCG. (#2 or #3)

Mich. State - 11-1 and beat three currently ranked teams. LOST to Nebraska (5-7) Plays #4 in CCG. (#5 is right)

Ohio State - 11-1 and beat one currently ranked team and lost to the other it played. Will not play in a CCG. (#6 is right)

Stanford - 10-2 and beat two currently ranked teams while losing to two others. Will play #24 USC again in CCG. (The other teams suck that bad)

North Carolina - 11-1 and played ZERO currently ranked teams while also playing two FCS teams and lost to South Carolina (3-9). Plays #1 in CCG. (What a shitty schedule)

Ohio State has the only loss that was against a decent team followed by Bama's to #16 Ole Miss and Stanford's two to mid-teens ranked teams. Losing to a 4-7 (rival), a 5-7, or a 3-9 (rival?) is not good. I think the committee is going to have a tough time with this one. All hell will break lose if Bama, MSU, Stanford, and UNC lose. So you're saying there's a chance?!?!?!?!
 
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Money Lines I see for Bama are in the range of 8.5 -1 (-850) which comes out to implying about a 10.5% ish chance of a loss to UF.

All in all I still am going with the line of thinking that The Bank has shared about recruiting; watch what they do, not what they say.

Last year the CFP panel put a name brand ahead of two off brands. That is what they did. What they said was "something something something conference champion something something". The rule wasn't the reason. The "rule" was an excuse for what they did. This year they had ND positioned to be in the top 4 until they took a second loss. They have OSU lingering near the top. They treated Oklahoma from the B12 differently than they did Baylor and TCU from the same conference last year. Name brands matter.

The "rules" they have to follow are not rules. They are guidelines for a tie breaker and they are both subjective and vague. They can do whatever they want and I believe they want to have the four best/name brand teams in their playoff if at all possible. The selection guidelines are more there to rationalize it afterward.
 
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Mike Thomas @Cantguardmike


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if everything was based on strength of schedule.... #shhhh

9:50 AM - 30 Nov 2015


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Never am I a hater, salty, or whatever else y'all want to call me. It's called copy and paste. Try it it's easy...

10:23 AM - 30 Nov 2015

Entire article: http://www.elevenwarriors.com/colle...thomas-doesnt-know-why-alabama-is-ranked-no-2
 
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Jaxbuck said:
Money Lines I see for Bama are in the range of 8.5 -1 (-850) which comes out to implying about a 10.5% ish chance of a loss to UF.

All in all I still am going with the line of thinking that The Bank has shared about recruiting; watch what they do, not what they say.

Last year the CFP panel put a name brand ahead of two off brands. That is what they did. What they said was "something something something conference champion something something". The rule wasn't the reason. The "rule" was an excuse for what they did. This year they had ND positioned to be in the top 4 until they took a second loss. They have OSU lingering near the top. They treated Oklahoma from the B12 differently than they did Baylor and TCU from the same conference last year. Name brands matter.

The "rules" they have to follow are not rules. They are guidelines for a tie breaker and they are both subjective and vague. They can do whatever they want and I believe they want to have the four best/name brand teams in their playoff if at all possible. The selection guidelines are more there to rationalize it afterward.
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So....the final CFP rankings will be

#1 Bama
#2 Oklahoma
#3 Ohio State
#4 Notre Dame
???
 
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LovelandBuckeye said:
So....the final CFP rankings will be

#1 Bama
#2 Oklahoma
#3 Ohio State
#4 Notre Dame
???
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If ND didn't play their way out the were clearly being positioned to get a seat at the table

I think any middle tier type schools (like a UNC) that end up winning a power 5 conference are still at risk if they aren't undefeated.

The power 5 didn't essentially split off from the NCAA just to set up a playoff system. They did it to not have to share the money with the Boise States of the world. They certainly aren't going to use this vehicle they created to paint themselves in a corner and have North Carolina in over an Ohio State or ND (in general terms).
 
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Bama's strength of schedule is pretty strong. Just looking at current rankings doesn't accurately describe what bama has done. Is it a brutal schedule? No. Is it tough enough to deserve a playoff spot? Yes.

Metric
Wins over likely ranked teams Alabama 0? 2? Ohio State 1
Record vs. >.500 teams Alabama 8-1 Ohio State 4-1
Opponent ranking of loss Alabama 18 Ohio State 5
Sagarin strength of schedule rank Alabama 5 Ohio State 61
Sagarin record vs. top 30 Alabama 6-1 Ohio State 1-1
S&P+ strength of schedule rank Alabama 17 Ohio State 50
 
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