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OK, I'm just going to use this thread to throw out some rule changes/suggestions. I'll bold the important parts. Let me know what you think:
First off, roster changes are a definite. What did we have last year, like 18 starting QBs? Here's what I think:
BCS teams only, sadly this includes NA because if they are in the top 30 they will get voted into the BCS automatically. More specifically: ACC, Big East, Big Ten, Big 12, Pac 10, SEC, and Notre Ame (Who actually has it's own spot on the "Conferences" page of the BCS website
http://www.bcsfootball.org/index2.cfm?page=conferences)
Starting
1 QB
2 RB
2 WR
1 RB/WR
1 K
1 Defense
8 Bench
16 Total Roster size
Second, with so many players available, the drop/add got a little crazy. I'm stealing from sm00r's league and putting a cap on drop/adds. His league doesn't allow any during the season. I think I'll allow 1 per team that starts some time after like the 3rd or 4th game, in a waiver claim type of deal (where waiver position is decided by reverse draft order...yay me!). This is completely undecided, so go ahead and tell me how stupid you think it is. I know I'm not going to have it like last year where you can change your whole team every week depending on who they are playing.
Third, scoring. I liked last years, so I'm going to tweak it just a little bit. I'll bold and asterik the changes
Passing, Rushing & Receiving TDs = 6 pts
Passing Yards = 1 pt / 20 yards passing
Interceptions = -2 pts
Rushing/Receiving Yards = 1 pt / 10 yards rushing
Fumbles = -2 pts
TD Length Bonus Pts *
60+ Yrd Passing TD = +4 pts
60+ Yrd Rushing TD = +5 pts
60+ Yrd Receiving TD = +4 pts
99+ Yrd TD = +10 pts
Kickers
PAT = 1 pt
Missed PAT = -3 pts
FG 0-49 = +3 pts
FG 50+ = +5 pts
FG 60+ = +8 pts *
No penalty for missed kicks *
Defense
Defensive TD = 6pts
Interceptions = 2 pts
Fumble Recovery = 2 pts
Blocked Kick = 2 pts
Safety = 2 pts
Points Allowed
0 = 10 pts
1-6 = 8 pts
7-13 = 5 pts
14-20 = 2 pts
21-27 = 0 pts
28-34 = -2 pts
35+ = -5 pts
Special Teams (returns) NOT INCLUDED for this category *
Fourth, this goes along with the scoring system. Since special teams returns have been taken out of the defense, I'll add them to the player who does the returning. This means a player who is a WR and a KR/PR will be more valuable than just a WR. (for example...some guy named Ginn or something might be a better pick than some ugly dude named Samardizja)
Returns
TD = 6 pts
Return Yards = 1 pt / 10 yards return
Bonus
80+ yards = +4 pts
Note: the 99+ bonus does NOT apply to returns
Thanks to Piney for digging up last year's scoring format.
Please give me your feedback, even if you hate it all. When we get this hammered out we can start the draft. Also, please leave a little feedback about your availability to draft (When you can, If you prefer an email/AIM/BP thread style,...)
First off, roster changes are a definite. What did we have last year, like 18 starting QBs? Here's what I think:
BCS teams only, sadly this includes NA because if they are in the top 30 they will get voted into the BCS automatically. More specifically: ACC, Big East, Big Ten, Big 12, Pac 10, SEC, and Notre Ame (Who actually has it's own spot on the "Conferences" page of the BCS website
http://www.bcsfootball.org/index2.cfm?page=conferences)Starting
1 QB
2 RB
2 WR
1 RB/WR
1 K
1 Defense
8 Bench
16 Total Roster size
Second, with so many players available, the drop/add got a little crazy. I'm stealing from sm00r's league and putting a cap on drop/adds. His league doesn't allow any during the season. I think I'll allow 1 per team that starts some time after like the 3rd or 4th game, in a waiver claim type of deal (where waiver position is decided by reverse draft order...yay me!). This is completely undecided, so go ahead and tell me how stupid you think it is. I know I'm not going to have it like last year where you can change your whole team every week depending on who they are playing.
Third, scoring. I liked last years, so I'm going to tweak it just a little bit. I'll bold and asterik the changes
Passing, Rushing & Receiving TDs = 6 pts
Passing Yards = 1 pt / 20 yards passing
Interceptions = -2 pts
Rushing/Receiving Yards = 1 pt / 10 yards rushing
Fumbles = -2 pts
TD Length Bonus Pts *
60+ Yrd Passing TD = +4 pts
60+ Yrd Rushing TD = +5 pts
60+ Yrd Receiving TD = +4 pts
99+ Yrd TD = +10 pts
Kickers
PAT = 1 pt
Missed PAT = -3 pts
FG 0-49 = +3 pts
FG 50+ = +5 pts
FG 60+ = +8 pts *
No penalty for missed kicks *
Defense
Defensive TD = 6pts
Interceptions = 2 pts
Fumble Recovery = 2 pts
Blocked Kick = 2 pts
Safety = 2 pts
Points Allowed
0 = 10 pts
1-6 = 8 pts
7-13 = 5 pts
14-20 = 2 pts
21-27 = 0 pts
28-34 = -2 pts
35+ = -5 pts
Special Teams (returns) NOT INCLUDED for this category *
Fourth, this goes along with the scoring system. Since special teams returns have been taken out of the defense, I'll add them to the player who does the returning. This means a player who is a WR and a KR/PR will be more valuable than just a WR. (for example...some guy named Ginn or something might be a better pick than some ugly dude named Samardizja)
Returns
TD = 6 pts
Return Yards = 1 pt / 10 yards return
Bonus
80+ yards = +4 pts
Note: the 99+ bonus does NOT apply to returns
Thanks to Piney for digging up last year's scoring format.
Please give me your feedback, even if you hate it all. When we get this hammered out we can start the draft. Also, please leave a little feedback about your availability to draft (When you can, If you prefer an email/AIM/BP thread style,...)
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A couple of my suggestions.
First off you should have a date that freezes roster moves. So I won't be able to dump all of my players not in Bowls and then pick up players playing in Bowl games
If you are going to start waivers after week 3 or 4 might as well go by record to determine waiver position.
Starting lineups look good and for the record we only started 2 QBs... but it was like 10 WRs we could start though
New point system looks good except for one thing. I think 1pt/10 yards might be too much. How about 1pt / 20 yards?
First off you should have a date that freezes roster moves. So I won't be able to dump all of my players not in Bowls and then pick up players playing in Bowl games
If you are going to start waivers after week 3 or 4 might as well go by record to determine waiver position.
Starting lineups look good and for the record we only started 2 QBs... but it was like 10 WRs we could start though
New point system looks good except for one thing. I think 1pt/10 yards might be too much. How about 1pt / 20 yards?
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Why not afford each team the opportunity to make 1 pick up or drop each week. Priority in p/u determined by reverse order of the standings?
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First off you should have a date that freezes roster moves. So I won't be able to dump all of my players not in Bowls and then pick up players playing in Bowl games
-I thought that's what I did
If you are going to start waivers after week 3 or 4 might as well go by record to determine waiver position.
-It's not waivers....it's just 1 roster move for the entire year, handled like waivers are.
Starting lineups look good and for the record we only started 2 QBs... but it was like 10 WRs we could start though
New point system looks good except for one thing. I think 1pt/10 yards might be too much. How about 1pt / 20 yards?
-Is this for return yards?
Why not afford each team the opportunity to make 1 pick up or drop each week. Priority in p/u determined by reverse order of the standings?
-Then there would be a mini draft every week where people were picking up players, which would be a pain for everybody involved. And it would hurt the people who had good drafts. I guess if you limit it to once a week it would have to be first come first serve....but i still don't like the idea of being able to pick up somebody just because they are playing Indiana.
-I thought that's what I did
If you are going to start waivers after week 3 or 4 might as well go by record to determine waiver position.
-It's not waivers....it's just 1 roster move for the entire year, handled like waivers are.
Starting lineups look good and for the record we only started 2 QBs... but it was like 10 WRs we could start though
New point system looks good except for one thing. I think 1pt/10 yards might be too much. How about 1pt / 20 yards?
-Is this for return yards?
Why not afford each team the opportunity to make 1 pick up or drop each week. Priority in p/u determined by reverse order of the standings?
-Then there would be a mini draft every week where people were picking up players, which would be a pain for everybody involved. And it would hurt the people who had good drafts. I guess if you limit it to once a week it would have to be first come first serve....but i still don't like the idea of being able to pick up somebody just because they are playing Indiana.
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First off you should have a date that freezes roster moves. So I won't be able to dump all of my players not in Bowls and then pick up players playing in Bowl games
-I thought that's what I did
You did but we should freeze the rosters after Week 10 (you just limited overall transactions)
If you are going to start waivers after week 3 or 4 might as well go by record to determine waiver position.
-It's not waivers....it's just 1 roster move for the entire year, handled like waivers are.
Ahhh, 1 roster move for the entire year? You might want to expand that to more than just 1 roster move. That would hamstring alot of people in case of injuries and that would cause alot of people to drop out.
New point system looks good except for one thing. I think 1pt/10 yards might be too much. How about 1pt / 20 yards?
-Is this for return yards?
Yes, return yards.
Why not afford each team the opportunity to make 1 pick up or drop each week. Priority in p/u determined by reverse order of the standings?
-Then there would be a mini draft every week where people were picking up players, which would be a pain for everybody involved. And it would hurt the people who had good drafts. I guess if you limit it to once a week it would have to be first come first serve....but i still don't like the idea of being able to pick up somebody just because they are playing Indiana.
We really didn't have that many weekly moves last year. Going back to an earlier point I made if you are limited to 5-7 moves for the entire year will someone really pick up someone for 1 week?
-I thought that's what I did
You did but we should freeze the rosters after Week 10 (you just limited overall transactions)
If you are going to start waivers after week 3 or 4 might as well go by record to determine waiver position.
-It's not waivers....it's just 1 roster move for the entire year, handled like waivers are.
Ahhh, 1 roster move for the entire year? You might want to expand that to more than just 1 roster move. That would hamstring alot of people in case of injuries and that would cause alot of people to drop out.
New point system looks good except for one thing. I think 1pt/10 yards might be too much. How about 1pt / 20 yards?
-Is this for return yards?
Yes, return yards.
Why not afford each team the opportunity to make 1 pick up or drop each week. Priority in p/u determined by reverse order of the standings?
-Then there would be a mini draft every week where people were picking up players, which would be a pain for everybody involved. And it would hurt the people who had good drafts. I guess if you limit it to once a week it would have to be first come first serve....but i still don't like the idea of being able to pick up somebody just because they are playing Indiana.
We really didn't have that many weekly moves last year. Going back to an earlier point I made if you are limited to 5-7 moves for the entire year will someone really pick up someone for 1 week?
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I can see the argument for more than one roster move, but agree we should set a number, and that's it (anywhere from 3-7). That would allow people to replace injured players, but does not provide them with enough freedom to replace their entire lineup each week, depending on who is playing the Sisters of the Poor.
Also, how are we going to do the draft? Are we having some computer super-guru make that spreadsheet again, so that we have one location for every college player in the world?
Also, how are we going to do the draft? Are we having some computer super-guru make that spreadsheet again, so that we have one location for every college player in the world?
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Not really, since the teams with good drafts don't need to pick anyone up (except for maybe bye weeks, but I guess that's not a problem for us anymore in college)
Doesn't much matter to me how we do it... or if we have no pick ups at all. So, whatever you decide.
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First off you should have a date that freezes roster moves. So I won't be able to dump all of my players not in Bowls and then pick up players playing in Bowl games
-I thought that's what I did
You did but we should freeze the rosters after Week 10 (you just limited overall transactions)
Sorry. I meant that the rosters would freeze after the draft, and you get 1 more move after that. You can't drop or add anybody after that 1 move.
If you are going to start waivers after week 3 or 4 might as well go by record to determine waiver position.
-It's not waivers....it's just 1 roster move for the entire year, handled like waivers are.
Ahhh, 1 roster move for the entire year? You might want to expand that to more than just 1 roster move. That would hamstring alot of people in case of injuries and that would cause alot of people to drop out.
That's what the bench is for. I would like to leave it completley open like an NFL fantasy, but the player pool is too deep and the competition isn't as equal. I think we can all comprimise to make it some where between 3-7.
New point system looks good except for one thing. I think 1pt/10 yards might be too much. How about 1pt / 20 yards?
-Is this for return yards?
Yes, return yards.
Good idea. In fact, I'll make it 1pt / 30 yards. I don't want the KR/PR/WRs all taken before good players who aren't KR/PR.
Why not afford each team the opportunity to make 1 pick up or drop each week. Priority in p/u determined by reverse order of the standings?
-Then there would be a mini draft every week where people were picking up players, which would be a pain for everybody involved. And it would hurt the people who had good drafts. I guess if you limit it to once a week it would have to be first come first serve....but i still don't like the idea of being able to pick up somebody just because they are playing Indiana.
We really didn't have that many weekly moves last year. Going back to an earlier point I made if you are limited to 5-7 moves for the entire year will someone really pick up someone for 1 week?
I hope not, but I guess that's their call. How about a set limit of 5 moves per team?
I can see the argument for more than one roster move, but agree we should set a number, and that's it (anywhere from 3-7). That would allow people to replace injured players, but does not provide them with enough freedom to replace their entire lineup each week, depending on who is playing the Sisters of the Poor.
Also, how are we going to do the draft? Are we having some computer super-guru make that spreadsheet again, so that we have one location for every college player in the world?
I'm not up for making that spreadsheet again. I think I'm going to put the onus on the drafters to do their own research. If that prevents too many people from participating I guess I could make time to throw something together.
Not really, since the teams with good drafts don't need to pick anyone up (except for maybe bye weeks, but I guess that's not a problem for us anymore in college)
Doesn't much matter to me how we do it... or if we have no pick ups at all. So, whatever you decide.
It hurts them by not rewarding them. The people who drafted with their eyes closed would have the chance to fix their team, while the people who kicked ass in the draft would have to hope they did good enough. If you draft the #112th RB and you see the #30th RB sitting there you can jump on him......but if you drafted #25 you don't really need #30.
This is how I won my baseball fantasy league last year. After about 4 weeks I was in 14th out of 16. I had the liberty to drop the duds and pick up all the surprises and I stomped everybody's ass. The guy I beat in the finals was on top the whole year with pretty much the same team.
I guess I just told that story to let everybody know how much fantasy baseball ass I kick routinely.
-I thought that's what I did
You did but we should freeze the rosters after Week 10 (you just limited overall transactions)
Sorry. I meant that the rosters would freeze after the draft, and you get 1 more move after that. You can't drop or add anybody after that 1 move.
If you are going to start waivers after week 3 or 4 might as well go by record to determine waiver position.
-It's not waivers....it's just 1 roster move for the entire year, handled like waivers are.
Ahhh, 1 roster move for the entire year? You might want to expand that to more than just 1 roster move. That would hamstring alot of people in case of injuries and that would cause alot of people to drop out.
That's what the bench is for. I would like to leave it completley open like an NFL fantasy, but the player pool is too deep and the competition isn't as equal. I think we can all comprimise to make it some where between 3-7.
New point system looks good except for one thing. I think 1pt/10 yards might be too much. How about 1pt / 20 yards?
-Is this for return yards?
Yes, return yards.
Good idea. In fact, I'll make it 1pt / 30 yards. I don't want the KR/PR/WRs all taken before good players who aren't KR/PR.
Why not afford each team the opportunity to make 1 pick up or drop each week. Priority in p/u determined by reverse order of the standings?
-Then there would be a mini draft every week where people were picking up players, which would be a pain for everybody involved. And it would hurt the people who had good drafts. I guess if you limit it to once a week it would have to be first come first serve....but i still don't like the idea of being able to pick up somebody just because they are playing Indiana.
We really didn't have that many weekly moves last year. Going back to an earlier point I made if you are limited to 5-7 moves for the entire year will someone really pick up someone for 1 week?
I hope not, but I guess that's their call. How about a set limit of 5 moves per team?
I can see the argument for more than one roster move, but agree we should set a number, and that's it (anywhere from 3-7). That would allow people to replace injured players, but does not provide them with enough freedom to replace their entire lineup each week, depending on who is playing the Sisters of the Poor.
Also, how are we going to do the draft? Are we having some computer super-guru make that spreadsheet again, so that we have one location for every college player in the world?
I'm not up for making that spreadsheet again. I think I'm going to put the onus on the drafters to do their own research. If that prevents too many people from participating I guess I could make time to throw something together.
Not really, since the teams with good drafts don't need to pick anyone up (except for maybe bye weeks, but I guess that's not a problem for us anymore in college)
Doesn't much matter to me how we do it... or if we have no pick ups at all. So, whatever you decide.
It hurts them by not rewarding them. The people who drafted with their eyes closed would have the chance to fix their team, while the people who kicked ass in the draft would have to hope they did good enough. If you draft the #112th RB and you see the #30th RB sitting there you can jump on him......but if you drafted #25 you don't really need #30.
This is how I won my baseball fantasy league last year. After about 4 weeks I was in 14th out of 16. I had the liberty to drop the duds and pick up all the surprises and I stomped everybody's ass. The guy I beat in the finals was on top the whole year with pretty much the same team.
I guess I just told that story to let everybody know how much fantasy baseball ass I kick routinely.
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There are plenty of people interested. If someone doesn't want to do their own research, they can dropout and we can bring in someone else.
That's how I managed to win this thing last year. I'd be surprised if half of my final team were drafted by me. This system will reward players for drafting well and not let schmucks like me (who get up early on Monday morning) pick up the guys that are playing well before someone else has a shot.
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Well, that's why you only allow 1 pick up per week per team.. based on a reverse order of the standings throught the year... The bad teams improve, and once they improve enough, they are no longer the bad team, and no longer have the best available pick.
Not to mention the fact that if you draft shit, and are allowed to pick up 1 player a week, it's going to take many weeks to get a team together that doesn't still suck.
The league I ran, I consistently had the "last" pick up (I was "always" in first) and I would pass the opportunity to pick anyone up often.... I still won the league.. because the teams that suck... they're more than a player or two away from competing...
Again.. it's 1 player per week per team.. not unlimited. You can't change your team entirely... hell... even if you tried to, with the number of starting positions, it would take more than 1/2 the season to do it... and if that's your plan - to draft shit and change your team... good luck with that.
But, like I said, I don' t really care, so long as I can replace injruies and such on my roster. I don't have shitty drafts, so it's not really my problem.
Not to mention the fact that if you draft shit, and are allowed to pick up 1 player a week, it's going to take many weeks to get a team together that doesn't still suck.
The league I ran, I consistently had the "last" pick up (I was "always" in first) and I would pass the opportunity to pick anyone up often.... I still won the league.. because the teams that suck... they're more than a player or two away from competing...
Again.. it's 1 player per week per team.. not unlimited. You can't change your team entirely... hell... even if you tried to, with the number of starting positions, it would take more than 1/2 the season to do it... and if that's your plan - to draft shit and change your team... good luck with that.
But, like I said, I don' t really care, so long as I can replace injruies and such on my roster. I don't have shitty drafts, so it's not really my problem.
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I'm looking forward to your shitty draft
The only problem I have with that is that each week we would need to do another one round "draft" and wait for each guy to do his drop/add or decline.
The only problem I have with that is that each week we would need to do another one round "draft" and wait for each guy to do his drop/add or decline.
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I'm looking forward to your shitty draft
The only problem I have with that is that each week we would need to do another one round "draft" and wait for each guy to do his drop/add or decline.
At least you caught on to the fact that I was tossing out some smack.
In my league, we always do pick ups on Tuesday... But, with us all being all over the place, it's not as easy as simply walking down to your office (like I do) and saying, "hey, you pickin anyone up this week?"
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Really BN, I am shocked you don't want more add/drops because we all know how bad you draft
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