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Colin Cowherd (Official Ass Hat)

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He didn't look at the fact that our QB situation was unsettled in Texas or that we were heading into an almost impossible atmosphere at PSU. He also refused to acknowledge the fact that scUM being a rivalry game had anything to do with it. All the while he counts ND as consistent because they played well in their one big game, but refuses to say that MSU and scUM performances were not consitent saying they were "just one game". How can you not take those things into account is what I want to know... Those may have something to do with consistency problems. To me, if a team plays well in their big game and still loses, it doesn't make them a better team.
 
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OSUBucks22 said:
It's not that I can't handle it... It's just that the argument is factually incomplete is all. That's what infuriates me the most. He says that anyone can twist a schedule strength and who you beat, but he's not giving or looking at all the facts and situations here either. That was my problem all along.
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Why would he do such a thing? Maybe to get a rise out of folks?

If he wanted to, and thought it would get better ratings, he'd be talking about how great OSU is for having the mettle to come back against Michigan. If he wanted to, he'd argue about how OSU has lost by a total of 10 points to 2 of the top 3 teams in the nation. So what? The BCS Selection Committee isn't sitting around wondering about what Colin Cowherd thinks about consistency.
 
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Buckeyeskickbuttocks said:
Why would he do such a thing? Maybe to get a rise out of folks?

If he wanted to, and thought it would get better ratings, he'd be talking about how great OSU is for having the mettle to come back against Michigan. If he wanted to, he'd argue about how OSU has lost by a total of 10 points to 2 of the top 3 teams in the nation. So what? The BCS Selection Committee isn't sitting around wondering about what Colin Cowherd thinks about consistency.
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I agree... I just get angered by irresponsible journalism. It doesn't matter in the end, just always been one of my pet-peaves and thought I would give others something to talk about.
 
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OSUBucks22 said:
He didn't look at the fact that our QB situation was unsettled in Texas or that we were heading into an almost impossible atmosphere at PSU.
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Who cares if our QB situation was unsettled, whose fault is that?

Here's my comeback to you on the Texas game, we got 3 turnovers in Texas territory and were held to 3 field goals.

That doesn't sound like a National title contender to me.


Refuting your second comment about the PSU atmosphere, you mean we lost in the same atmosphere that Texas came into our stadium and beat us in?
 
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OSUBucks22 said:
He is saying that tOSU is a poser this year because they haven't played well in their biggest games. He says that consistency is the most important thing and that tOSU is not consistent. He says that ND is consistent because you can expect 40 points a game and no dropped passes each week. He also says they are better because they played their best game of the year in their toughest game. What a jag-off... Then he is proceeding to call all tOSU fans non-objective because they don't agree with him, because everyone one not from OH agrees with him.
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:so:
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Thump said:
Who cares if our QB situation was unsettled, whose fault is that?

Here's my comeback to you on the Texas game, we got 3 turnovers in Texas territory and were held to 3 field goals.

That doesn't sound like a National title contender to me.


Refuting your second comment about the PSU atmosphere, you mean we lost in the same atmosphere that Texas came into our stadium and beat us in?
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All valid points Thump...
 
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DaddyBigBucks said:
No offense to those on the board who composed the crowd during the Texas game, but that did not come close to what the Buckeyes faced in Happy Valley. Even before things started going wrong vs. PSU, one of my first comments to my brother was that I wished we'd had that much energy and noise in the 'Shoe for the Texas game. In our defense, I recall that the Texas game was before the students were back in town.
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Great observation, I was going to write the same thing but you saved me the trouble.

The 'white out' at Penn State was unreal ... I've never seen anything like that before. I honestly believed after that game that nobody could have beaten Penn State that night. Nobody.
 
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DaddyBigBucks said:
Cowherd has stated publicly that he stirs the pot to get ratings. There are few pots he can stir to get more buzz.

We didn't react enough yesterday, so he's going after us again today.
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I have never listened to Cowherd, but from this discription I guess he must be the Tibor of sports talk radio....yeah, I'm glad I haven't wasted my time listening.
 
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Left out the key disclaimer that Colin insisted on...

IN BIG GAMES

He thinks ND is better in big games, that's all.







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Uh, which big games did ND have, besides USC? Michigan, Michigan State? Uh, let's see, which team has the better record in those games?

Here's some reality, Mr Cowherd:

Here is a comparison with Notre Dame that shows Ohio State also is more deserving of a BCS Bowl berth (with the same basic structure as the Ohio State - Oregon comparison). As with Oregon, there is little to argue about between the accomplishments of the two teams. I'll let the board argue about whether Notre Dame or Oregon is more deserving!

Here is some comparative analysis.

Here is why Ohio State is more deserving...


Ohio State deserves the BCS Bowl because it played a far tougher schedule than Oregon and it is a better team with a higher power rating in every computer poll and a higher ranking in every human poll.


There are sound reasons why Ohio State is ranked higher than Notre Dame:

· Ohio State played a tougher schedule, as measured by:
· Opponents combined win-loss records
· Opponents with win-loss records of .500 or less
(70% of Notre Dame’s opponents are .500 or less)
· Opponents with Top 25 Sagarin power rankings
· Opponents with Top 10 Sagarin power rankings
· Opponents with Top 25 Sagarin strength of schedule rating
· Opponents with Top 10 Sagarin SOS rating

The opponents of each team had… OHIO STATE Notre Dame
Combined win-loss records 70-49 (58.8%) 47-59 (44.3%)
A win-loss record of .500 or less 4 (36.3%) 7 (70.0%)
Top 25 Sagarin power rating 6 (54.5%) 2 (20.0%)
Top 10 Sagarin power rating 3 (27.3%) 2 (20.1%)
Top 25 Sagarin SOS power rating 8 (72.7%) 7 (70.0%)
Top 10 Sagarin SOS power rating 7 (63.6%) 3 (30.0%)

This table lists

Date Opponent Opponent record Score

09/03/05 at Pittsburgh ( 5-5 ) 42-21
09/10/05 at Michigan ( 7-4 ) 17-10
09/17/05 Michigan St ( 5-6 ) 41-44
09/24/05 at Washington ( 2-9 ) 36-17
10/01/05 at Purdue ( 5-6 ) 49-28
10/15/05 USC ( 11-0) 31-34
10/22/05 Brigham Young ( 6-5 ) 49-23
11/05/05 Tennessee ( 4-6 ) 41-21
11/12/05 Navy ( 6-4 ) 42-21
11/19/05 Syracuse ( 1-9 ) 34-10
11/26/05 at Stanford ( 5-5 )
Total record: 47-59 (44%)

This table lists

Week, location, outcome, score, opponent with Greenfield rating, Opponent Sagarin power rating, Opponent Sagarin SOS rating

Week 1 Away W 42-21 vs. #54 Pittsburgh 49 59
Week 2 Away W 17-10 vs. #9 Michigan 9 1
Week 3 Home L 41-44 vs. #33 Michigan State 28 9
Week 4 Away W 36-17 vs. #74 Washington 81 16
Week 5 Away W 49-28 vs. #34 Purdue 35 8
Week 7 Home L 31-34 vs. #2 USC 2 20
Week 8 Home W 49-23 vs. #60 BYU 46 63
Week 10 Home W 41-21 vs. #58 Tennessee 48 24
Week 11 Home W 42-21 vs. #73 Navy 73 104
Week 12 Home W 34-10 vs. #99 Syracuse 114 40
Week 13 Away ? vs. #36 Stanford 42 14
 
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Buckeyeskickbuttocks said:
I don't disagree with you, Steve. ND played 1 "big game" and it was against USC. A little easier to be consistent when you only have 1 big game.
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Actually, we are in agreement BKB. I was fighting to get the fonts to line up and couldn't get the post to load correctly. It is correct now and your point is 100% spot on!
 
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