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Colin Cowherd (Official Ass Hat)

Love or hate him, he was reprimanded by ESPN for supporting Ohio State, Jim Trssel, and Andy Geiger during the Maurice Clarett fiasco. He stated on radio he was pulled into an office and told to get in line and wouldn't do it based on the word of an angry cast-off.

He likes to stir the pot for sure, but I'll always give him a pass just for that. And he does praise coach Trssel quite a bit...just says he needs to bring his offense out of the stone-age. But Herbstreit says the same thing....
 
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I don't care if he likes Ohio State. He shouldn't LIKE or DISLIKE Ohio State, or any other team, for that matter. And he says what he says to get ratings. Ohio State fans listen to the show, so he supports them. Same thing with fans of any other popular teams that are doing well. (Teams that aren't doing well tend to not have many fans listening to national sports radio shows.) But laughing at Greg Oden (or any other player) for getting another season-ending injury is just bad taste, and I don't want to listen to him now. Like I said, it's no real loss for him or for me.
 
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billmac91;1620907; said:
Love or hate him, he was reprimanded by ESPN for supporting Ohio State, Jim Trssel, and Andy Geiger during the Maurice Clarett fiasco. He stated on radio he was pulled into an office and told to get in line and wouldn't do it based on the word of an angry cast-off.

He likes to stir the pot for sure, but I'll always give him a pass just for that. And he does praise coach Trssel quite a bit...just says he needs to bring his offense out of the stone-age. But Herbstreit says the same thing....

I agree here, I like his show, he presents more facts than Jim Rome, doesn't drop a sound byte every 20 seconds and generally has smart things to say. He said it when the Bucks were going up against Texas last year, the public perception of the big 10 is that it's a horrible conference, and with our bowl showing last year, that doesn't help.

The truth is, if you are a fan of any big time program, sooner or later you are going to get destroyed on national radio. With USC and Oklahoma having so many issues, I think we've skated the national media destruction for the most part.

Either way, it's all about ratings, pissed off or happy, people will listen if for nothing else to have something to talk about over the water cooler.
 
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pnuts34;1621316; said:
Your welcome. Why wouldn't I be an ESPN fan, isn't just about everyone fans of the leading network in sports. DUH

Um, no, everyone's not. There's a difference between watching games that happen to be on ESPN and being a fan of their original programming, especially blowhard talking-heads like Cowherd. Your post above just regurgitated what are apparently the ESPN approved talking-points about OSU football, and I think the "truth" of those statements is more debatable than you recognize.
 
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pnuts34;1620903; said:
I don't think Colin says anything the general public outside of Columbus or Buckeyes fans say about us already. I can't think of one thing false he's said about our team! We don't win big games, its nice that we beat Indiana and Northwestern, but the nation doesn't see those games for the most part. They see us when we play in BCS bowls and big regular season games, and we've lost all of them recently. We win the Rose Bowl, he has nothing much to say about our squad, but for now we've fueled every correct statement for him to say. Btw, he constantly lists us as one of the best teams/schools to play and/or coach for, but he bashes us for constantly losing big games, Which we have been doing!

BayBuck;1620904; said:
Thank you, ESPN fan.

I don't listen to sports talk radio so I can't really pass judgment on Cowherd but the basic view of OSU that Pnuts34 described above is pretty common and it damn sure doesn't mean people who say it are mindless ESPN fanboys.

How much do any of us know about a Virginia Tech beyond what we see on a highlight/recap show or reading a couple of articles? I know what my perception of them is, Beamerball. Now I guarantee you they have a board full of guys who go crazy every time some "ESPN fan" doesn't know about how much better they are on offense the past couple of years or some such thing.

OSU has lost the last 5 times they stepped out of the B10 against anyone decent. 3 of those 5 were beat downs. How is the average non OSU fan supposed to perceive them?

If VT was dominating the ACC and had the same level of failure every time they stepped out of conference the past 3-4 years there isn't one guy on this board who would be defending them. It would be abject dismissal because "the ACC sucks and they lose every time they have to play anyone".

The incessant outrage over the national perception of OSU I see on this board baffles me.
 
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Jaxbuck;1621327; said:
I don't listen to sports talk radio so I can't really pass judgment on Cowherd but the basic view of OSU that Pnuts34 described above is pretty common and it damn sure doesn't mean people who say it are mindless ESPN fanboys.

How much do any of us know about a Virginia Tech beyond what we see on a highlight/recap show or reading a couple of articles? I know what my perception of them is, Beamerball. Now I guarantee you they have a board full of guys who go crazy every time some "ESPN fan" doesn't know about how much better they are on offense the past couple of years or some such thing.

OSU has lost the last 5 times they stepped out of the B10 against anyone decent. 3 of those 5 were beat downs. How is the average non OSU fan supposed to perceive them?

If VT was dominating the ACC and had the same level of failure every time they stepped out of conference the past 3-4 years there isn't one guy on this board who would be defending them. It would be abject dismissal because "the ACC sucks and they lose every time they have to play anyone".

The incessant outrage over the national perception of OSU I see on this board baffles me.

A person who says about Colin Cowherd "I can't think of one false thing he's said about our team!" pretty much sounds like a mindless ESPN fanboy. Same with "isn't just about everyone fans of the leading network in sports. DUH".

I really don't get too upset about the ESPN gospel as it relates to OSU, but I'm not alone as a non-fan of the "worldwide leader" and I will openly disagree when their simplistic talking points are given as fact.
 
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pnuts34;1620903; said:
I don't think Colin says anything the general public outside of Columbus or Buckeyes fans say about us already. I can't think of one thing false he's said about our team! We don't win big games, its nice that we beat Indiana and Northwestern, but the nation doesn't see those games for the most part. They see us when we play in BCS bowls and big regular season games, and we've lost all of them recently. We win the Rose Bowl, he has nothing much to say about our squad, but for now we've fueled every correct statement for him to say. Btw, he constantly lists us as one of the best teams/schools to play and/or coach for, but he bashes us for constantly losing big games, Which we have been doing!


Wrong. If Ohio State had lost to Penn State, then that would have been an example of another big game that we lost. We won that game so it is no longer considered a big game. If we had lost to Iowa, it would be an example of another big game that we lost. Again, we won that game so it isn't considered a big game. We've won and lost our share of big games over the past few years. If you already hate tOSU, or you are trying to drum up ratings from a huge fanbase, then you only talk about the losses and call them big games to prove your point.
 
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If you already hate tOSU, or you are trying to drum up ratings from a huge fanbase, then you only talk about the losses and call them big games to prove your point.
Right, it's like the chatter about OSU & UM. He'll play both sides of the fence to rile up the masses, and he's extremely successful in doing it. Not very classy, but that's never been a big concern of ESPN.
 
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Zander42;1621341; said:
Wrong. If Ohio State had lost to Penn State, then that would have been an example of another big game that we lost. We won that game so it is no longer considered a big game. If we had lost to Iowa, it would be an example of another big game that we lost. Again, we won that game so it isn't considered a big game. We've won and lost our share of big games over the past few years. If you already hate tOSU, or you are trying to drum up ratings from a huge fanbase, then you only talk about the losses and call them big games to prove your point.


And after each of those games, he gave praise to our team! But we've lost the biggest games on our schedule the past few years is his points! And we have! You can't honestly think that games against PSU and Iowa are equal to playing USC, Texas in a BCS bowl and UF and LSU in NC games! I'm just saying he's giving the national perception of our squad, right or wrong! Jaxbuck hit it on the head, most OSU fans watch Big 10 teams and not much else, unless they live in a different market and are forced to watch whatever local team is there. Its not just ESPN either, you can go to any National syndicated radio or even talk show from Fox Sports to Comcast sports and the views are the same, the Big 10 is weak and down, so wins over PSU and Iowa don't matter to people outside of the Big 10. Thats just the facts of it, not saying I'm agreeing with them, but I am a fan of his show, he's funny and does make some valid points(sometimes not about OSU and some are). Losing 2yrs back to back to USC matters in the minds of many, losing 3 straight BCS games is what people everywhere outside of the Big 10 remember.
 
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And after each of those games, he gave praise to our team!
Sometimes yes, sometimes no. He'll flip flop daily with his take on a team, matchup, past or previous results.

Cowherd is not driven by logic. He's driven by what can provide the most entertainment, and usually that is accomplished by riling up the most angry callers and pleasing the haters with his mockery.
But we've lost the biggest games on our schedule the past few years is his points! And we have! You can't honestly think that games against PSU and Iowa are equal to playing USC, Texas in a BCS bowl and UF and LSU in NC games!
When we lost to PSU 08, it "proved" we couldn't compete with the elite. When we beat them in 07 & 09, it's just Tressel beating up on his weak conference.
Jaxbuck hit it on the head, most OSU fans watch Big 10 teams and not much else
And most football fans troll back and forth on message boards like insecure 10 year olds up past their bedtime. I don't see what relevance that has to BP, which has a pretty broad range of game intake.

And none of this justifies treating ESPN as they are beloved by all. Generally speaking, they get under the skin of most college football fans, but there is no suitable alternative for game broadcasts & highlights on a national scale. The BTN is nice for our games, but that's not a very useful option for most of the nation, nor anyone who wants to keep up with teams around the nation.
 
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Cowherd publicly states he's in it for the ratings. He has also said on numerious occasions that he gets the most calls/email from Ohio. Put 2 and 2 together here. He's going to do what he can for ratings, which mostly means he's going to rag on Ohio State.

Know that going in and you'll be able to appreciate everything else he brings to the table. When he has his days where it's clear he's just trying to piss people off, I turn him off. Otherwise, he's entertaining enough to get me through my boring ass work day.
 
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pnuts34;1621357; said:
Jaxbuck hit it on the head, most OSU fans watch Big 10 teams and not much else, .

Don't lump me with anything defending ESPN. For the record I find their Morton Downey SR/shock jock approach despicable. I signed off on them after the MoC fiasco and don't watch, listen or click anything related to them unless its to watch a specific game.

I was commenting on the incessant beating of the no respect drum and how myopic the defenses have become. The non OSU average college football fan who gives a quick synopsis of OSU by saying they beat up on a weak B10 but can't beat anyone outside of it isn't necessarily some brain dead ESPN fanboy was my point. Given the on field results since 2006 I have a hard time understanding why so many OSU fans have a hard time understanding this view from outside.
 
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pnuts34;1621316; said:
Your welcome. Why wouldn't I be an ESPN fan, isn't just about everyone fans of the leading network in sports. DUH

BayBuck;1621320; said:
Um, no, everyone's not...

I'm not a "fan", but I do listen because, as jwins said "...there is no suitable alternative for game broadcasts & highlights on a national scale".

But I had to laugh when I saw this exchange. It brought to mind a great day of football, brats and beer, watching TSUN lose to Appy State at Jax's house. As I was leaving, figuring that I would listen to some more college football on the way home, I asked Jax where I could find the local ESPN radio affiliate on my dial. He looked at me like I had three heads.

Or, to put it another way...

Jaxbuck;1621327; said:
I don't listen to sports talk radio...
 
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