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But was this opinion as prevalent when the Bucks were kicking ass and taking names in the Rose Bowls/Bowl Games past?
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OSU has never been great in the rose bowl, particularly against USC in their hometown. (It's also UCLA's home stadium)

The one locale where OSU enjoyed a rare neutral site was Glendale. There was obviously the exception against UF (though I think most would agree that outcome would be similar if played in a Columbus OH dome... that was about toughness & heart not locale), but the rest of the decade went pretty well for OSU. The other 4 games saw OSU beat up the highly touted offenses (which were all predicted to continue that trend) from Miami, Kansas St, Notre Dame and Texas.


Locales don't win games, but they can definitely pour more gasoline on the explosive plays & momentum of the home team. There's a reason the SEC has had a tougher time in road games far from home.


The crowd can't stop OSU from getting routed (like by UF), but when OSU starts stringing together huge plays (like sacks, forced fumbles and interception returns vs Miami), the crowd can really fuel the defense (in a cyclical manner). This was huge against Miami, especially with the lack of consistent offense by the buckeyes.
 
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BigWoof31;1705231; said:
I have to ask - so ding me in rep if you think its an unfair question.

But was this opinion as prevalent when the Bucks were kicking ass and taking names in the Rose Bowls/Bowl Games past?
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No and haha I'm not gonna ding you in rep dude.

No it wasn't but nothing ever seems wrong when you're winning championships. It shouldn't matter whether we were talking about it before or not because football is played in wintery conditions in the USA and acting like that doesn't happen when it comes time to play the biggest games is not fair. Just hypothetically, If the SEC teams were forced to come up in January to Ohio and play us in our home state (someone mentioned Paul Brown Stadium earlier, or wherever) in below freezing weather and started losing, do you think you wouldn't hear about it???

It's only fair though.
 
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http://blogs.ajc.com/atlanta-falcons-blog/


Pertinent because the Falcons want to build a new stadium and they want it to be outdoors.

1. They think an outdoor venue would be better because of the suite revenue.

2. Can't afford a retractible roof

3. However, they need the city help with tax revenue to build it and the city won't build an outdoor arena if it's going to cost them the chance to host premium events (final fours, SEC Championships (hoops and Footbaw, Bowl games, concerts...etc)


My guess is that the GA Dome gets refurbished and no new stadium is built.
 
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BigWoof31 said:
Great point and the follow up probably needs to be thrown out to the BP masses.

OSU is a massive school with thousands of graduates across America. Surely some have worked/still work for the NFL corporate office? Can we get this question answered?
Why are these games always in warm weather locations? Is it from a tradition/history standpoint - or do sponsors really command that these games be in better climates?
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More people will go spend a ton of money during the whole week if the SB is in a warmer climate. Nobody is looking to save up for a year so they can take their family to Foxboro for a week and see the sights.
 
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Brr! NFL owners pick NJ for 2014 Super Bowl - NFL - Yahoo! Sports

IRVING, Texas (AP)—Check the antifreeze, grab the mittens, make sure the airport’s not snowed in.

We’re going to the Super Bowl.

In New Jersey!

NFL owners voted Tuesday to put the 48th Super Bowl in the new $1.6 billion Meadowlands Stadium that this season will become home to the New York Jets and Giants. It’s the first time the league has gone to a cold weather site that doesn’t have a dome and, until now, those places couldn’t even bid on the big game.

The league made an exception for the New York area, and New York only. But just a few years ago, the NHL experimented with an outdoor game on New Year’s Day, and it was such a success that teams now fight to host what’s become an annual event.

“We believe the owners have the faith in us that 3 1/2 years from now we’ll put on a remarkable event,” Giants co-owner Jonathan Tisch said on the NFL Network. “The greatest game in the world will be played on the greatest stage in the world.”

For all the hoopla on putting the Super Bowl in the nation’s prime media market, it wasn’t a slamdunk. It took four votes by NFL owners to pick New Jersey over two Florida cities, Miami and Tampa. Miami was eliminated after the second ballot.

If the NFL decides to wait and see how this foray into the great outdoors in winter goes, it could be until about 2019 or 2020 to try again because it takes a year or two to put together a bid for a game that’s another four years away.

The slogan for New York’s bid is “Make Some History.” The first piece likely to be made is a record-low temperature at kickoff. The current record is 39 degrees in 1972 at Tulane Stadium in New Orleans, and that would be considered a warm February day in East Rutherford, N.J.

There’s never been snow in a Super Bowl game and that could happen, too.

The average temperature range for the Meadowlands area during February is 24 to 40 degrees, with several inches of rain, according to the bid documents. Remember, the game kicks off after sunset in the Eastern time zone, so temperatures would be dropping throughout the night.

Planners have factored it all in. They’re plotting giveaways to warm hands and seats, having hundreds of folks ready to shovel away snow and anything else they can do to make the experience more than just bearable.
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Sportswriters whined when the Super Bowl was in Jacksonville. They are only concerned about getting hammered at Super Bowl parties and acting like idiots. Its their favorite paid vacation.

That's why they are complaining about New York. Fuck sports writers!
 
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The NFL played championship games for over 3 decades before there ever was a "Super Bowl", in places like Chicago, Detroit, New York and Cleveland.
 
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I keep reading all of this crap about how players aren't going to be happy about this. Screw them. Many of them get paid more money in a couple years than we'll see in our entire lives, yet many of us average folk can put up with being miserable at our jobs for more than two weeks out of the year. Spare me the "warm weather is the reward for making it to the Super Bowl" garbage too. Poor professional athletes can't afford to go south for a vacation I guess. :roll2:
 
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jwinslow;1705279; said:
OSU has never been great in the rose bowl, particularly against USC in their hometown. (It's also UCLA's home stadium)
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Acutally, Ohio State won the first four Rose Bowls in which they played ('50, '55, '58, and '69), and two of those were against USC. Now, we did lose the 1921 Tournament of Roses Game, but that was technically not the Rose Bowl. :wink:

matcar;1705305; said:
It's just an outdoor sport that can be played in any location.
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Bolded words meaning in locations that may not be warm and dry or climate-controlled.
 
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jlb1705;1708418; said:
I keep reading all of this crap about how players aren't going to be happy about this. Screw them. Many of them get paid more money in a couple years than we'll see in our entire lives, yet many of us average folk can put up with being miserable at our jobs for more than two weeks out of the year. Spare me the "warm weather is the reward for making it to the Super Bowl" garbage too. Poor professional athletes can't afford to go south for a vacation I guess. :roll2:
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If weather really was that big of a deal for the players, no free agents would go to Pittsburgh, New England, Philly, New York, etc etc etc.

Funny, attending 1 game in a cold SB is a horrible thing, but players willingly will play in the cold multiple times in a year if they get paid enough to go there. :roll1:
 
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ghost of tibor;1708443; said:
If weather really was that big of a deal for the players, no free agents would go to Pittsburgh, New England, Philly, New York, etc etc etc.

Funny, attending 1 game in a cold SB is a horrible thing, but players willingly will play in the cold multiple times in a year if they get paid enough to go there. :roll1:
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Like a bad fucking penny :smash:
 
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Somebody in the media finally gets to the heart of the reason for a cold-weather Super Bowl:

Champs will have to come out and play for New York Super Bowl - Joe Posnanski - SI.com

Basically here is the thing I haven't liked: Pro football, for the most part, has lost the weather. And that's terrible. I'm not saying football is a cold-weather sport ... I'm saying it's an all-weather sport. And they have more or less legislated snow and rain and ice and mud out of the game.
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This is because I think weather is a big part of football. Not just cold weather. Hot weather too. Muggy weather. Windy weather. All weather. To me, weather is one of the main things that separates it from our other major sports. Hockey and basketball are indoors, in controlled environments. Baseball is not built for extreme weather, and when it gets played in the snow, it feels like a farce. The strange thing is that baseball games are being played later and later in the year, bringing in more and more inclement weather. That's the screwy way of our sports world. While baseball is being played more in the snow, football is being played less.
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