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Cleveland Indians (official 2012 season)

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Twins win....way early to be scoreboard watching....but it's comedy that the Tigers are under .500 on 5/16, werent they supposed to run away with the division without any questions?
 
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buckeyemania11;2155811; said:
Twins win....way early to be scoreboard watching....but it's comedy that the Tigers are under .500 on 5/16, werent they supposed to run away with the division without any questions?
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while i think the tigers will ultimately win the division, their infield defense is a trainwreck.

after tonight, only two qualifying 1b have fewer errors than prince fielder, and he's bottom 5 in fielding% just roughly computing the stats. after tonight, cabrera will be in the bottom 7 in fielding % and 19th of 21 (tied) in total errors.

and this doesn't account for zone rating for each, which I assume is probably pretty low.
 
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tsteele316;2155816; said:
while i think the tigers will ultimately win the division, their infield defense is a trainwreck.

after tonight, only two qualifying 1b have fewer errors than prince fielder, and he's bottom 5 in fielding% just roughly computing the stats. after tonight, cabrera will be in the bottom 7 in fielding % and 19th of 21 (tied) in total errors.

and this doesn't account for zone rating for each, which I assume is probably pretty low.
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Who would've thought putting two fat fucks as your corner infielders would have a negative impact on the defense?
 
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NFBuck;2155860; said:
Who would've thought putting two fat fucks as your corner infielders would have a negative impact on the defense?
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who would have thought peralta would be one of the top fielding short stops in baseball right now? is that sustainable? unlikely. if peralta reverts back to normal peralta, then that infield could have a really tough time.
 
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http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20120516&content_id=31442752&vkey=news_mlb&c_id=mlb

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CLEVELAND -- Indians manager Manny Acta made sure he got a close look at Grady Sizemore's progress on Wednesday afternoon. A few hours before Cleveland's game against the Mariners, Acta threw to the sidelined center fielder in an early round of batting practice.
Sizemore is still has a long way to go in his return from back surgery, but taking swings in the batting cage is a major step forward.
"He looked good for the first time," Acta said. "He swung the bat good, but it's just a start. We're not going to rush anything. He's going to continue his rehab, and I'm anticipating that he's going to go on a rehab assignment where he's going to have plenty of at-bats before he comes up here and plays."
Sizemore, who underwent a micro disectomy procedure on his lower back on March 1, will be eligible to be activated from the 60-day disabled list on June 3. Acta said on Wednesday, however, that it is unlikely that the center fielder would be ready to rejoin the Indians' lineup by that day.
"I doubt that we'll be able to meet that date," Acta said. "I can't sit here and give you a timetable. He has to finish the strengthening program with his legs and then be declared ready to compete. It's not just about baseball."
Sizemore, 29, has been hitting, throwing and doing running and agility drills as part of his rehab from the back surgery, as well as the knee issues that have dogged him over the past two years. The veteran outfielder noted earlier this month that he hopes to return to Cleveland's lineup before July, though the team has not confirmed that potential timetable.
As things currently stand, the Tribe's outfield consists of right fielder Shin-Soo Choo, center fielder Michael Brantley, left fielder Johnny Damon and reserve outfielders Aaron Cunningham and Shelley Duncan. Prior to his injury, Sizemore was in the plans as the regular center fielder with Brantley in left. The Indians plan on being cautious with Sizemore's return."We're going to take everything out of his hands," Acta said. "He's going to follow everything that we have mapped out, and he's not fighting anything. He knows this is serious stuff."
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OneBuckeye;2155893; said:
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20120516&content_id=31442752&vkey=news_mlb&c_id=mlb

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Hmmm... one legged Grady Sizemore or Aaron Cunningham?

Look, I don't havee any idea why the Tribe didn't part ways with the guy after last season (end of his contract) But, yeah, ummmm... Aaron Cunningham. At any rate, Damon isn't doing, well, anything, and I'll be the first one to say that finally Brantley doesn't look lost in CF... but, we're already paying the guy, and he at least becomes the 3rd best offensive OF on the team if he can go. (plus a theoretical defensive upgrade).
 
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Put Sizemore in left when he comes back...he is no CF anymore, and he will just break his dick after about a week trying to be one. Presumably they would send Cunningham down, but that would leave Duncan and Damon as the 4th and 5ths, which would make our outfield defense on par with Detroit's infield defense. I dunno...Damon seems to be a lost cause, maybe they cut him when Sizemore is ready.
 
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Bucklion;2155913; said:
Put Sizemore in left when he comes back...he is no CF anymore, and he will just break his dick after about a week trying to be one. Presumably they would send Cunningham down, but that would leave Duncan and Damon as the 4th and 5ths, which would make our outfield defense on par with Detroit's infield defense. I dunno...Damon seems to be a lost cause, maybe they cut him when Sizemore is ready.
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damon has some sort of crazy out clause in his deal that lets him walk once sizemore returns, provided damon isn't getting any real playing time. so, he could try and latch on to an offensively challenged contending team that isn't cleveland, around the all star break.

but none of the arguments about the midget amputee nub fight that is the LF spot makes any difference if the starting rotation doesn't start performing a bit better. expecting lowe and geanmar gomez to carry the staff is asking for trouble.
 
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