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1926Buckeyes
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Damn that sucks. So basically the only way they get better is if LeBron restructures his contract and takes 5-10 mil less a year?
Not...good!
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This is as crucial as any stat imo...Thompson did extremely well on the boards and defending in last year's title run. He is playing flat out bad right now. Most of our guys are not hitting their shots but that issue is exacerbated when you are getting very few looks at second-chance points off of offensive rebounds.
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OregonBuckeye
Semper Fi Buckeyes
Possibly but I don't think it's a certainty. The west has been the stronger/deeper conference for the past 2 decades. Even without KD, the Warriors were obviously outstanding. But even if they didn't make it out of the west, the Thunder or Spurs would be formidable as well. The Cavs' problem is they have the star power but zero reliable role players.
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The only way I see the Cavs having a chance going forward is for Lebron to get the banana boat crew and others of their ilk to come to Cleveland for minimum contracts as role players. I'm not sure what's wrong with Kyrie, but he hasn't had his shot all series, which cost us the game yesterday. Love is giving effort, but his shooting has been pretty spotty as well. The Cavs have to play it out because they are a Curry or KD injury away from having a slim chance.
I would avoid trading away anymore future 1st round picks so they don't get caught in Brooklyn hell for the next decade. I'd give this group another 2-3 years to see what they can do, but if it keeps up like this I'd trade away everyone and start over hoping they draft better than the first post Lebron era. That's really the difference between the Cavs and the Warriors. The Warriors nailed almost every pick and the Cavs drafted Kyrie. OKC is probably the only team to draft better, but they were too cheap to keep the team together, which ended up costing them KD. Imagine Westbrook, Harden, KD, Ibaka, and Adams for a starting lineup.
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cmstophe
Renewal
The Cavs have a multitude of problems, and they all get magnified when facing a team like GSW. The Cavs have no offensive system and rely on iso ball too much. They have too many guys who play one side of the ball as well including two of their stars. And too reliant on LeBron.
Even then, they are still probably the second best team in the league, hence my comment about them winning more than one title if GSW juggernaut didn't come out of nowhere.
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I feel a blowout coming tonight, with the bad guys on top. Hope I am wrong, but there it is.
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BuckeyeMafia
A Leaf on the Wind
Windhorst wrote about that very topic today.
The article more or less says that we need to keep the roster intact while upgrading the bench, and I wholeheartedly agree. I'd see if you could get some combination of Kevin Love and a few role players for Paul George on a multi-year deal, but he seems to be the only star worth looking at. Butler can't spread the floor and needs the ball, so he doesn't help you on the offensive end, Chris Paul looks old and has never been the conference finals, and Blake Griffin is too injury-prone. If you can't get George, hang on to Love. He couldn't hit a shot to save his life in game 3, but he hasn't been the problem.
I disagree about keeping Korver on an expensive deal, though. He's a valuable guy in the regular season and during the Eastern Conference playoffs, but he's 36-years-old and doesn't help you against Golden State. He's only worth playing when his shooting is enough to compensate for his defense, and that hasn't been the case in the Finals. I'd also re-sign Griffin because he's been terrific, but Gilbert doesn't value GMs, so I don't think that'll happen. It's going to take some real wizardry to turn a bench of washed up players out of their primes into young 3-and-D guys on the upswing.
The article more or less says that we need to keep the roster intact while upgrading the bench, and I wholeheartedly agree. I'd see if you could get some combination of Kevin Love and a few role players for Paul George on a multi-year deal, but he seems to be the only star worth looking at. Butler can't spread the floor and needs the ball, so he doesn't help you on the offensive end, Chris Paul looks old and has never been the conference finals, and Blake Griffin is too injury-prone. If you can't get George, hang on to Love. He couldn't hit a shot to save his life in game 3, but he hasn't been the problem.
I disagree about keeping Korver on an expensive deal, though. He's a valuable guy in the regular season and during the Eastern Conference playoffs, but he's 36-years-old and doesn't help you against Golden State. He's only worth playing when his shooting is enough to compensate for his defense, and that hasn't been the case in the Finals. I'd also re-sign Griffin because he's been terrific, but Gilbert doesn't value GMs, so I don't think that'll happen. It's going to take some real wizardry to turn a bench of washed up players out of their primes into young 3-and-D guys on the upswing.
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It's really the NBA as a whole that's gone sour for me.
They sold out to allow "super teams" to be created, when you end up with basically 1 super team (GS) and super team lite (Cavs) it basically makes the whole league no fun.
I've never seen a playoff (or whole league in fact) in any sport with anywhere near the complete and total lack of any parity as this years NBA.
They might as well have just had GS and Cleveland play 82 games, GS would have won the greater majority of them of course.
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La Liga in Spain comes to mind. Barcelona and Real Madrid win the league almost every single year. It's gotten to the point where the only exciting matches involving Barcelona and Madrid are when they play each other, and Champions League.
But I completely agree. The NBA has gotten pretty watered down with only two contending teams for the Finals the last 3 years, likely next year as well.
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