Cleveland Cavs (2016 NBA Champions)

[MrRedsBills]

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ESPN is reporting that the Cavaliers have opened up trade talks with the Timberwolves with a deal involving Dion Waiters, Anthony Bennett a pick, and Andrew Wiggins.
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ESPN says CLE has opened trade talks with MIN by offering Waiters, ABennett and a pick for Kevin Love. Assume Wiggins will be in mix too.

 

[Mac]

That's way too much if true...

 

[MaxBuck]

Here's my take on Kevin Love: great looking player, absolute statistics machine. Should be so dominant the 'Wolves don't suck. 'Wolves suck nonetheless.

Melo 2.0. Like Anthony, Love's impact on the team is much less than his statistics would indicate he should be.

I'd give up Waiters, Bennett and a first for him, no doubt, but Wiggins? Fuhgeddaboutit.

 

[NJ-Buckeye]

First rumor for the Love trade... Cavs have offered Waiters, Bennet and a 1st rounder.

We should make that the 1st rounder we get from Miami... cuz everyone knows they're gonna suck.. should be a good pick

 

[ysubuck]

Don't give up Wiggins. No need to now.

 

[UpNorth_Buckeye]

We should make that the 1st rounder we get from Miami... cuz everyone knows they're gonna suck.. should be a good pick

Top 10 protected for 2 years. So not as valuable since they probably won't get it for 3 years.

 

[UpNorth_Buckeye]

Here's my take on Kevin Love: great looking player, absolute statistics machine. Should be so dominant the 'Wolves don't suck. 'Wolves suck nonetheless.

Melo 2.0. Like Anthony, Love's impact on the team is much less than his statistics would indicate he should be.

I'd give up Waiters, Bennett and a first for him, no doubt, but Wiggins? Fuhgeddaboutit.

Kevin Love is still a hell of a player. Their second best player is Rubio. Yes, Friggin Rubio. And they competed for a spot in the playoffs in the West. That equates to a 3 seed in the East. Is he a LeBron/KD impact player? No. But he's still a top 10 player at any position in the league.

 

[NJ-Buckeye]

How would the math work in a Love trade?
Love is going to want a hefty extension...
With LBJ & Irving at max.. how do you make the math work for 3 max deals?

Wiggins is a great talent.. but his contract value is squat.. same for Bennett and Waiters
and you can't touch Andy... LBJ loves Andy

 

[MaxBuck]

Their second best player is Rubio. Yes, Friggin Rubio.

Nope. Both Nicola Pekovic and Kevin Martin are better players than Rubio, who isn't a bad young point.

I'm not saying Love isn't top ten, but he barely makes it in. Yet his numbers are absolutely unreal.

 

[exhawg]

How would the math work in a Love trade?
Love is going to want a hefty extension...
With LBJ & Irving at max.. how do you make the math work for 3 max deals?

Wiggins is a great talent.. but his contract value is squat.. same for Bennett and Waiters
and you can't touch Andy... LBJ loves Andy

The only math we need to worry about would be trading away enough to equal Love. Anything else is Gilbert's willingness to pay the luxury tax. We have young talent so we can go over the cap to keep them. This only becomes a problem when your players get old and you can't sign good young plays.

 

[UpNorth_Buckeye]

Nope. Both Nicola Pekovic and Kevin Martin are better players than Rubio, who isn't a bad young point.

I'm not saying Love isn't top ten, but he barely makes it in. Yet his numbers are absolutely unreal.

I'll give you Pekovic. But Kevin Martin over Rubio? Talk about someone who isn't as good as his stats.

 

[Piney]

How would the math work in a Love trade?
Love is going to want a hefty extension...
With LBJ & Irving at max.. how do you make the math work for 3 max deals?

Wiggins is a great talent.. but his contract value is squat.. same for Bennett and Waiters
and you can't touch Andy... LBJ loves Andy

Love will make $15+ million, Bennett and Waiters make $10 million, Hopson maked 2.5 million (that is why we signed him) and that gets you home for salaries to match (they don't need to match, just within some percentage) So in whatever trade, without including TT or Andy, you have to include 2 of Bennett, Wiggins or Waiters

 

[NJ-Buckeye]

Can you imagine having Irving, Wiggins, Thompson, Love and James as your starting 5

and a bench of Andy, Ray Allen and Miller

 

[BuckeyeMafia]

Can you imagine having Irving, Wiggins, Thompson, Love and James as your starting 5

and a bench of Andy, Ray Allen and Miller

That would put the Cavs on San Antonio's level. Unfortunately, I don't think you can swing Love for Waiters, Bennett, and picks.

 

[NJ-Buckeye]

That would put the Cavs on San Antonio's level. Unfortunately, I don't think you can swing Love for Waiters, Bennett, and picks.

As @Piney says... our position is... here's the offer or we wait till next yr and take him for nothing