the very first scouting report you find on shelton says that he tends to back down against better competition, which is exactly what phil taylor does. if he doesn't start dominating from the get go he's a total no show. he's a better version of taylor because taylor is an out of shape slug that makes occasional appearnces, whereas shelton is pretty athletic and hustles. i mean, taking randy gregory, a RT, or a QB would be worse than Shelton, and if no other pass rushers or wrs are on the board, then fine. but i wouldn't be taking him over ray or beasley, and it would be a toss up between him and devonte parker. i guess in retrospect, it's not necessarily underwhelming.
scouting reports on orchard state that he doesn't appear to be athletic enough or good enough in space to be an effective OLB, and is a very poor run defender. so, a less athletic mingo doesn't inspire me much. malcolm brown i like quite a bit.
I question whether Mingo's athletic ability was a hindrance on him developing as a complete player while at LSU. Coming out he was way too reliant on his speed and athleticism and never really evolved any secondary pass rushing traits.
I'll admit I'd take Beasley over Orchard. I know you agree with that as well. I just don't think Beasley will be there and Orchard can be had in the 2nd, would probably come in and be every bit as effective or better than Mingo his rookie year.
Especially getting after the QB.
I watched Shelton be consistently doubled team and hold his own and the talk of him backing down makes little sense as he was more than good against Stanford, while being doubled in their downhill power game.
I did see a shit ton of him hustling sideline to sideline as it really feels like most offenses in the Pac (outside of Stanford) really like to run laterally.
I like Malcolm because he, behind Leonard, might be the best interior pass rushing big man. We now have 3 of those in Starks, Desmond and Winn. Of course Starks is no long term solution. I do think its quite fantastic that the
Brownies have BPA and need align quite well for this draft. So long as we don't take what you said in the 1st round, it would be difficult for Farmer to fuck this up.
They need to address WR, and if they have any sense, they'll do it at 12 provided one of Cooper/White/Parker is there. Receivers have been a major weakness of this outfit since the rebirth. Aside from one good year out of stone hands, and an incredible year from a semi-retarded drug addict, they've had to rely on output from career journeymen like Kevin Johnson, Quincy Morgan, Dennis Northcutt, Antonio Bryant, Andre' Davis, Mohammed Massaquoi, and Greg Little. Now they've added what's left of Dwayne Bowe (who hasn't done squat for 3 years) and another journeyman-type in Brian Hartline. I don't think it's a stretch to surmise the lack of quality WRs has played a role in the endless stream of QB flameouts this franchise has endured.
At 19 its possible, however Farmers belief is that WR's only effect the game a handful of plays. Which isn't necessarily true, although to an extent I agree with what he says. It wouldn't surprise me to see the front office stick to their guns on that and grab Devin in the 2nd or perhaps someone like DGB later on if he's available.
edit: To be clear, I would really, really love to have Devin in the 2nd. Vertical threat that wouldn't be asked to come in and be 'the guy'. Give him a chance to really work on the rest of the route tree while playing under Hartline and Hawk.
double edit: I dont think its fair to call Hartline a "journeyman" player. He's been a quality #2 WR when playing in an offense that actually involves him.
