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Cleveland Browns (official thread of Masochism 2015)

That might be true but I do not understand how that benefits the Browns in the long run. I understand that he might give us the best shot at winning but that might be debatable depending on who we play. I am not trying to argue your point but I guess I am thinking about the long run because we certainly are not going anyplace this season or probably the next or…

OK, the long run is any other position that's not QB. You have to start your best option for at least a while so you can see what you've got and compete like you haven't thrown the season away. Now, once you get there (in a more tangible way, as opposed to the "shit we suck, what's the point" defeatist way) then it makes more sense for Manziel to start. But, if for some reason they win the next game, its 2-2 and you're theoretically in the playoff picture. (Best shot at winning being a different debate, but, one I didn't even think we'd be having)
 
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That might be true but I do not understand how that benefits the Browns in the long run. I understand that he might give us the best shot at winning but that might be debatable depending on who we play. I am not trying to argue your point but I guess I am thinking about the long run because we certainly are not going anyplace this season or probably the next or…

Win games, generate momentum, slowly creep back to being a respectable team. Just tossing out a young player to 'see what you have' is a slap in the face to not only fans and coaches, but the other players and veterans on the team.
 
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Win games, generate momentum, slowly creep back to being a respectable team. Just tossing out a young player to 'see what you have' is a slap in the face to not only fans and coaches, but the other players and veterans on the team.
Its the team...the average NFL career is 5 years or less...you can't expect 52 guys to get their skulls bashed in for 4 months so ownership can "see what they have".
 
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Win games, generate momentum, slowly creep back to being a respectable team. Just tossing out a young player to 'see what you have' is a slap in the face to not only fans and coaches, but the other players and veterans on the team.

I agree with this. Arguably this was actually happening last year before they decided to toss JFF on after the Atlanta game. In fairness I thought almost nothing of Hoyer as a QB and figured JFF couldn't be worse. (Ha!)
 
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