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[AKAK]

What started the incident was a stupid, unnecessary, and uncalled late hit by Garrett.

Rudolph's a bitch is he DOESN'T push at the guy..... just let's him do that crap. He's not a bitch when he defends himself.

You have a strange definition of what a bitch is.

I'd like to see a suspension WELL into next year. And I hope to hell the Player's Association doesn't challenge whatever he gets.

It wasn't a late hit, the didn't even block him on a screen. No flag came out till they mixed it up. C'mon.

 

[BuckBuckTN]

It wasn't a late hit, the didn't even block him on a screen. No flag came out till they mixed it up. C'mon.

The flag didn't come out until AFTER Garrett tore the helmet off, so if there's no incident until then..... Garrett STILL started it.

You can't have it both ways. If no flag was called on Garrett for the hit, nor Rudolph for grappling on the field..... the incident STARTED with the helmet being torn off because that drew the flag.

 

[Mike80]

The flag didn't come out until AFTER Garrett tore the helmet off, so if there's no incident until then..... Garrett STILL started it.

You can't have it both ways. If no flag was called on Garrett for the hit, nor Rudolph for grappling on the field..... the incident STARTED with the helmet being torn off because that drew the flag.

What started the incident was a stupid, unnecessary, and uncalled late hit by Garrett.

Rudolph's a bitch is he DOESN'T push at the guy..... just let's him do that crap. He's not a bitch when he defends himself.

You have a strange definition of what a bitch is.

I'd like to see a suspension WELL into next year. And I hope to hell the Player's Association doesn't challenge whatever he gets.

These two statements are incongruent....

 

[BuckBuckTN]

These two statements are incongruent....

I think it was a late hit that was uncalled. The refs didn't. The refs didn't call anything on Rudolph and Garrett rolling around......

If no incident started with the hit (which I believe was late) then Rudolph should defend himself. If it didn't start until the flag, the helmet being off drew the flag.

What's incongruent? If it ain't a late hit because it was uncalled...... I can go with that. It wasn't a an incident when they were wrestling, again....no flag.

The first flag came after Garrett got his helmet, so he started it.

I just happen to feel the hit was unneeded.

 

[AKAK]

The flag didn't come out until AFTER Garrett tore the helmet off, so if there's no incident until then..... Garrett STILL started it.

You can't have it both ways. If no flag was called on Garrett for the hit, nor Rudolph for grappling on the field..... the incident STARTED with the helmet being torn off because that drew the flag.

You're the one that wants to have it two ways. If it was a late hit, my opinion would be different. Rudolph was pissed because he got his ass kicked all night and threw 4 picks. He's a bitch. Doesn't excuse Garrett for hitting him with the helmet - but he started it on the ground and went after Garrett after his helmet was off. That all happened. It's easy to like no one here.

 

[BuckBuckTN]

You're the one that wants to have it two ways. If it was a late hit, my opinion would be different. Rudolph was pissed because he got his ass kicked all night and threw 4 picks. He's a bitch. Doesn't excuse Garrett for hitting him with the helmet - but he started it on the ground and went after Garrett after his helmet was off. That all happened. It's easy to like no one here.

You're not going far enough back. Nobody thinks he should hit him with a helmet.

He shouldn't tear another player's helmet off. Period.

No flag appeared UNTIL he did that. So THAT started the incident because the ref was right there for everything else.

 

[AKAK]

You're not going far enough back. Nobody thinks he should hit him with a helmet.

He shouldn't tear another player's helmet off. Period.

No flag appeared UNTIL he did that. So THAT started the incident because the ref was right there for everything else.

If you're not going to read anything I said, I can't help you.

 

[BuckBuckTN]

If you're not going to read anything I said, I can't help you.

I read EXACTLY what you said: I'll give you it wasn't a late hit. No flag.

The ref is standing there watching what Rudolph was doing...... AGAIN NO FLAG.

The flag comes out when Garrett tears the helmet off. I'm assuming the NFL, the refs were fine UNTIL Garrett started it by being a punk who can't take some wrestling from a QB. Garrett's the punk who lost his cool..... couldn't take a little wrestle from a QB and goes full on dumbass.

 

[buckeyemania11]

The battle tactic of punching someone in the head who has a helmet on is always amusing

 

[AKAK]

I read EXACTLY what you said: I'll give you it wasn't a late hit. No flag.

The ref is standing there watching what Rudolph was doing...... AGAIN NO FLAG.

The flag comes out when Garrett tears the helmet off. I'm assuming the NFL, the refs were fine UNTIL Garrett started it by being a punk who can't take some wrestling from a QB. Garrett's the punk who lost his cool..... couldn't take a little wrestle from a QB and goes full on dumbass.

That's a better take at least. But Rudolph did attack Garrett on the ground... Obviously he should have reacted better to that (and not done the rest of it) bit doesn't change Rudolph's bitch level in the least.

 

[BuckBuckTN]

The battle tactic of punching someone in the head who has a helmet on is always amusing

That's why is an automatic flag for taking off a helmet. Yours or someone else's.

That's a better take at least. But Rudolph did attack Garrett on the ground... Obviously he should have reacted better to that (and not down the rest of it) bit doesn't change Rudolph's bitch level in the least.

Ref is right there watching the QB like they do..... No flag. Whatever Rudolph did WAS NOT a penalty.

Garrett's a punk. It wouldn't break my heart if he never saw another NFL snap. Go play Aussie rules...

 

[chillinvillian]

About time this team had some fight in them! Too soon?

 

[LovelandBuckeye]

Fuck both of these fucking bitch teams. The Steelers have been cocksucking douche canoes for years under their bitch of a HC.

The Browns are whole new kind of dumb with a lot of talent.

Who Dey!? 0-9 motherfuckers!

 

[ScriptOhio]

Myles Garrett suspension for Steelers-Browns fight: Why he deserves record punishment for helmet swing

On Thursday night, Cleveland Browns defensive end Myles Garrett committed the closest thing we've seen to an on-field crime in the modern era of pro football. Only one response will suffice. The NFL must issue the longest suspension for a single on-field act in its history, ending Garrett's 2019 season with six games remaining on the Browns' schedule and making clear to the world that what happened at FirstEnergy Stadium is one of the worst moments on the field in its history.

Such discipline, as harsh as it might seem, won't be particularly controversial to anyone who saw Garrett rip off Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback Mason Rudolph's helmet and then use it to pummel his unprotected head. If Garrett hit someone with a helmet on the streets of Cleveland, he would face arrest. The outburst left grizzled football veterans gasping at its sheer violence, a throwback matched by only a handful -- if any -- of intentional acts in 100 years of league play.

The length of Garrett's absence shouldn't be too tough for the NFL to figure out. It suspended Oakland Raiders linebacker Vontaze Burfict indefinitely earlier this season for an accumulation of on-field acts, culminating with a helmet-to-helmet hit, but the longest suspension it has issued for a single on-field incident is five games. That happened in 2006 when then-Tennessee Titans defensive lineman Albert Haynesworth ripped the helmet off Dallas Cowboys center Andre Gurode and then kicked and stomped on his face. Gurode needed 30 stitches to close the wounds.

Rudolph was lucky to avoid a similar fate, or worse. The stunned expression on the face of Browns quarterback Baker Mayfield, speaking moments later in an interview on Fox, depicted the weight of the scene. Mayfield couldn't summon an ounce of defense for his teammate.

"It's inexcusable," he said. "That's just endangering the other team. ... The reality is he is going to get suspended. We don't know how long, and that hurts our team."

Don't forget that Rudolph was knocked unconscious last month by a hit to his helmet and missed one game. The contact from that blow, initiated by Baltimore Ravens safety Earl Thomas III, was so severe that Rudolph's eyes were closed before he hit the ground. If you knew that context, you were surely cringing as you saw Garrett bash Rudolph's head, topped off by Browns defensive lineman Larry Ogunjobi pushing Rudolph to the ground from behind. Steelers center Maurkice Pouncey then entered the fray, kicking and punching Garrett and escalating the scene to a point where it wouldn't have been surprising to see police officers on the field. (Rudolph did pull at Garrett's helmet while both were on the ground, but that bit of aggressiveness hardly merited the response.)

"I lost my cool, and I regret it," Garrett said afterward. Rudolph called it "cowardly" and "bush league" after the game. But I'm sorry, using normal words to describe a singular act of violence risks assimilating it into all the other dirty and unsportsmanlike plays we've seen in football.

Entire article: https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id...t-why-deserves-record-punishment-helmet-swing

The Browns only have 6 more games, he could be done playing this season.

 

[Fungo Squiggly]

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