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Buckeneye
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The Browns were sellers. Sellers knowing full well they'll need more draft capital to effect real offensive improvements within 2 years. By that point, Myles will be damn near 33 years old.
The Browns fielded multiple offers. As much as we bash them, I doubt they had anything better than what they took. Which amounted to two 1st round picks along with (binding points on the draft capital chart) a higher 2nd round pick. Not too shabby.
Point being is this is a matter of timing. Myles is heading towards the back 9. This team isn't close to contention and, even with offensive improvement this year, probably not even getting wildcard spot.
Of the top 5 NFL defenses, one (Texans) rostered great-to-elite edge talent. The Superbowl winners were 6th and had good talent across all 3 levels. None generational, none what we would deem elite.
Losing Myles, but infusing young talent to improve the whole of the 1st, 2nd & 3rd levels of the defense, while pairing it with (god willing) offensive improvement yields a more complete, competitive team where both sides of the ball can compliment each other. Right now the imbalance has been so egregious the last couple years that it's pathetic.
This team went 0-16 with Joe Thomas, then turned it around to being a few throws away from 8-8 the very next year.
Tough pill to swallow, but it's the truth.
I wish Myles well. It was a pleasure watching him. But the Browns are further setup with draft capital to take a shot at effecting real offensive improvement while still maintaining a quality defense.
The Browns fielded multiple offers. As much as we bash them, I doubt they had anything better than what they took. Which amounted to two 1st round picks along with (binding points on the draft capital chart) a higher 2nd round pick. Not too shabby.
Point being is this is a matter of timing. Myles is heading towards the back 9. This team isn't close to contention and, even with offensive improvement this year, probably not even getting wildcard spot.
Of the top 5 NFL defenses, one (Texans) rostered great-to-elite edge talent. The Superbowl winners were 6th and had good talent across all 3 levels. None generational, none what we would deem elite.
Losing Myles, but infusing young talent to improve the whole of the 1st, 2nd & 3rd levels of the defense, while pairing it with (god willing) offensive improvement yields a more complete, competitive team where both sides of the ball can compliment each other. Right now the imbalance has been so egregious the last couple years that it's pathetic.
This team went 0-16 with Joe Thomas, then turned it around to being a few throws away from 8-8 the very next year.
Tough pill to swallow, but it's the truth.
I wish Myles well. It was a pleasure watching him. But the Browns are further setup with draft capital to take a shot at effecting real offensive improvement while still maintaining a quality defense.
The problem isn’t that they traded him. The problem is they didn’t bother to try to maximize the return.
This is also after investing finally in the offensive line and leaking like three weeks ago that Deshaun Watson was gonna start again as he gave them the best chance to win now allegedly.
This organization’s leadership group gets no benefit of the doubt until something actually works.
This is also after investing finally in the offensive line and leaking like three weeks ago that Deshaun Watson was gonna start again as he gave them the best chance to win now allegedly.
This organization’s leadership group gets no benefit of the doubt until something actually works.
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MAYBE this was a semi tanking strategy to cut off a couple wins.. increase the draft position.. to pick a better QB
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Ah yes, tanking for and drafting a QB high. A strategy that’s clearly worked well for the Browns over the years.
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BuckBackHome
Wolverine is largest member of weasel family
Browns fans thinking they may want a new owner and would even take this guy.
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Buckeneye
I lead, you follow.
I'm selling a car, it no longer fits my long term plans and I need to invest the capital elsewhere in the near future.
I believe the car is worth $125
- I'm offered $80. I say no.
- I'm offered $100.
Those are my only two offers I recieve.
I take the top offer.
That's what the Browns took, the $100. That is the most a buyer was willing to play. Ergo, the Browns maximized their possible return as sellers. If there was a better offer, it would have been accepted.
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BuckBackHome
Wolverine is largest member of weasel family
In the Browns defense, the No Trade Clause handcuffed them. However, they did agree to that as part of the record-breaking contract they signed Myles to at the time, so odds are they limited their trade return haul by their own agreement.
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Not a Browns fan but from outside looking in, if I were a fan:
It's not that they sold the car
It's not what they sold the car for
It's the fact that they still need a car and you know the poor decisions are likely going to continue.
To continue the metaphor: they'll be taking the bus to work for the next 5 years while they pay off a POS car that broke down two weeks after they bought it. You just don't don't know exactly what will go wrong with the car yet.
It's not that they sold the car
It's not what they sold the car for
It's the fact that they still need a car and you know the poor decisions are likely going to continue.
To continue the metaphor: they'll be taking the bus to work for the next 5 years while they pay off a POS car that broke down two weeks after they bought it. You just don't don't know exactly what will go wrong with the car yet.
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I don't know what Jared Verse's value is......but the Raiders got 2 firsts for Maxx Crosby for about a day before the Ravens decided to continue being the bitches that they are. Feels like Myles Garrett is worth more.
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Talking heads are saying, in essence, Browns got "2 1sts, 2 2nds and a 3rd" for Miles
that Rams would have easily gotten a 1st and 2nd for Verse as a standalone trade
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ScriptOhio
Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.
ESPN: Ward 'definitely' wants to stay with Browns after Garrett trade
"I definitely still want to be here," Ward said Saturday at his inaugural celebrity softball game. "Myles is a good friend of mine, a great teammate, but things aren't lost. It's Ohio against the world. So people could doubt us, but we're going out there still trying to play our best ball and bring wins to the city."
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Zurp
I have misplaced my pants.
Two things:
1. I love that he has maintained his "Ohio against the World" mentality.
2. I also love that he isn't referring to Cincinnati as on his side in "Ohio against the World". I don't mind Cincinnati. I like Cincinnati. But I find it funny that Cleveland fans don't consider Cincinnati as part of Ohio.
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