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Sorry, but horse[Mark May]. Chris Palmer managed 5 wins in two years with a roster that was garbage. You can probably count the number of guys from those teams that would start for the 2017 browns on one hand, with fingers to spare.

This browns team is not good, but the coaching staff is a disaster.

Hmmm... Good exercise. Couch. Ummm... Both corners. (fuller and mccutcheon) Orlando Brown with a fully functional eye.

That's 4.

Dawson and Gardocki? Is that cheating? (Dawson isn't, I don't think)

Oh, Kevin Johnson.

That's all I got.
 
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Is that because it's the only way to keep him from taking bad angles?
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http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2017/09/jabrill_peppers_couldnt_sleep.html

he's 30 yards off the LOS when this ball is caught. There are two guys engaged in front of Hilton, a sideline to his right, #21 is one step behind, so where does Peppers go? Well right behind the blocked defender to stop, naturally! :lol:



Also, kudos on a very Kenny Britt esque effort from #21. Peppers at least tried in his usual way.
 
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I don't like defending scUM players, but the coaching staff lines up Peppers 10 miles from the LOS.

That is why they were dumbfucks for drafting him. He's too small to play down in the box and isn't skilled enough to be a good pass defender.

They passed on Malik Hooker to draft a good kick returner in the first round.
 
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That is why they were dumbfucks for drafting him. He's too small to play down in the box and isn't skilled enough to be a good pass defender.

They passed on Malik Hooker to draft a good kick returner in the first round.
Kickoff return yards: https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/player-stat/kickoff-return-yards
A Brown shows up on the list...Matthew Dayes. Peppers pops in at 40th with 161 yards.

Punt return yards: https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/player-stat/punt-return-yards
Jabrill shows up at 22nd on this list with 144, which works out to 6 yards per return.

He does have 0 TDs, though.....so he's got that going for him.
 
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Is that because it's the only way to keep him from taking bad angles?
He still does that.

That is why they were dumbfucks for drafting him. He's too small to play down in the box and isn't skilled enough to be a good pass defender.

They passed on Malik Hooker to draft a good kick returner in the first round.
6.0 per punt return, 20.1 per kick return. He's a lousy punt returner, and an average (at best) kick returner. So, yeah...the ONE job (returner) he could have been a plus at, he isn't.
 
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That is why they were dumbfucks for drafting him. He's too small to play down in the box and isn't skilled enough to be a good pass defender.

They passed on Malik Hooker to draft a good kick returner in the first round.

I'm pretty sure the guy that made that call is gone and anyone else that could have had a hand in it will probably be gone as well by the time FA rolls around. Anyone that thinks AJ McCarron was worth a 2nd and 3rd round pick needs to be fired right now. I'm guessing Hugh Jackson thought he was one his way back to Cinci and wanted to see if he could take those picks with him.
 
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http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2017/09/jabrill_peppers_couldnt_sleep.html

he's 30 yards off the LOS when this ball is caught. There are two guys engaged in front of Hilton, a sideline to his right, #21 is one step behind, so where does Peppers go? Well right behind the blocked defender to stop, naturally! :lol:



Also, kudos on a very Kenny Britt esque effort from #21. Peppers at least tried in his usual way.

I guess in defense of Peppers, not being able to sleep is a step up from Gilbert, who couldn’t wake up after his shitty outings. So there’s that.
 
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That is why they were dumbfucks for drafting him. He's too small to play down in the box and isn't skilled enough to be a good pass defender.

They passed on Malik Hooker to draft a good kick returner in the first round.

Kickoff return yards: https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/player-stat/kickoff-return-yards
A Brown shows up on the list...Matthew Dayes. Peppers pops in at 40th with 161 yards.

Punt return yards: https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/player-stat/punt-return-yards
Jabrill shows up at 22nd on this list with 144, which works out to 6 yards per return.

He does have 0 TDs, though.....so he's got that going for him.
Hell, Hooker had 73 interception return yards and he only played in 7 games.
 
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I'm pretty sure the guy that made that call is gone and anyone else that could have had a hand in it will probably be gone as well by the time FA rolls around. Anyone that thinks AJ McCarron was worth a 2nd and 3rd round pick needs to be fired right now. I'm guessing Hugh Jackson thought he was one his way back to Cinci and wanted to see if he could take those picks with him.

The guy who picked peppers also did so largely because the defensive coordinator that is still employed pounded the table for him.
 
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