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Cleveland Browns (2017 Thread of Chlamydia)

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NFBuck said:
50.

By decade:
1970's- 6
1980's- 6
1990's- 11
2000's- 15
2010's- 12

Of course, the 2000's and 2010's are skewed because of the sheer amount of losing cutting huge swaths into a number of those seasons.
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Well, its skewed the other way too, because theoretically they had 12 3 game losing streaks in 2016... but we're nice and just call it one 14 game losing streak. But, once they had their 3rd loss, they had one and repeated that 11 more times.
 
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AKAK said:
Well, its skewed the other way too, because theoretically they had 12 3 game losing streaks in 2016... but we're nice and just call it one 14 game losing streak. But, once they had their 3rd loss, they had one and repeated that 11 more times.
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Precisely. That's why if we counted it that way, it would be closer to my estimated gazillion.
 
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NFBuck said:
50.

By decade:
1970's- 6
1980's- 6
1990's- 11
2000's- 15
2010's- 12

Of course, the 2000's and 2010's are skewed because of the sheer amount of losing cutting huge swaths into a number of those seasons.
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Amazingly enough. With 3 seasons left in the 2010s, it appears that this franchise is getting worse the further away from expansion it gets. That is astounding.
 
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buckeyebri said:
@NFBuck can you do a pivot table with coaches and their associated stats....8D
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Late response, and I don't feel like messing around with excel, as my actual job necessitates me spending large portions of my day doing that; but here's a quick breakdown:

Chris Palmer, 1999-2000
5-27, .156 win%, 11.8 ppg, 26.8 papg

Butch Davis, 2001-2004
24-35, .407 win%, 18.8 ppg, 20.8 papg

Terry Robiskie, 2004
1-4, .200 win%, 10.2 ppg, 24.8 papg

Romeo Crennel, 2005-2008
24-40, .375 win%, 17.3 ppg, 21.7 papg

Eric Mangini, 2009-2010
10-22, .313 win%, 16.1 ppg, 22.1 papg

Pat Surmur, 2011-2012
9-23, .281 win%, 16.3 ppg, 21.1 papg

Rob Chudzinski, 2013
4-12, .250 win%, 19.3 ppg, 25.4 papg

Mike Pettine, 2014-2015
10-22, .313 win%, 18.0 ppg, 24.0 papg

Hue Jackson, 2016-
1-15, .063 win%, 16.5 ppg, 28.3 papg

The clowns have shuffled through coordinators at an amazing rate...

Offensive Coordinators: Chris Palmer (1999), Pete Carmichael (2000), Bruce Arians (2001-2003), Terry Robsiskie (2004), Rob Chudzinksi (2004), Maurice Carthon (2005), Maurice Carthon/Jeff Davison (2006), Rob Chudzinksi (2007-2008), Brian Daboll (2009-2010), Pat Shurmur (2011), Brad Childress (2012), Norv Turner (2013), Kyle Shanahan (2014), John DeFilippo (2015), Hue Jackson/Pep Hamilton (2016)

They've changed offensive coordinators 15 times in 18 seasons. The most stability they had was with Arians, who had the job for three years under Butchie. Three former clowns OC's went on to land HC gigs...Rob Chudzinski, Bruce Arians and Kyle Shanahan. Arians after moving on to Pittsburgh and Indianapolis, Shanahan after walking away from Cleveland and becoming the hottest coordinator (SB meltdown not withstanding) in the NFL, Chud was notoriously hired out of fucking nowhere by none other than the clowns for a one year stint.

Defensive Coordinators: Bob Slowik (1999), Romeo Crennel (2000), Foge Fazio (2001-2002), Dave Campo (2003-2004), Todd Grantham (2005-2007), Mel Tucker (2008), Rob Ryan (2009-2010), Dick Jauron (2011-2012), Ray Horton (2013), Jim O'Neil (2014-15), Ray Horton (2016)

The clowns have cycled through 11 DC changes in 18 years, Horton getting two shots at the job. The most stability they've had at DC was Todd Grantham's three year stint under Crennel. One former clowns DC, Romeo Crennel, would go on to be an NFL head coach. It didn't go well.
 
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Jake said:
They could almost intentionally try to select worse QBs and not match that rate of failure. :eek:
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QBs the clowns have drafted (Couch, Wynn, L. McCown, Frye, Quinn, McCoy, Weeden, Manziel and Kessler) have gone a combined 43-108 (.285) for them. :lol:

Statistically, the best QB they have fielded is probably a toss-up between Kelly Holcomb and Josh McCown. :slappy:
 
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CFPBuckeye said:
Still can't believe that the Browns won 22 games with Tim Couch.
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More astounding is that a journeyman like Brian Hoyer is the ONLY clowns QB with a winning record, 10-6. One other is .500, Jake Delhomme (2-2).

Your top-5 clowns QB's by Win%, minimum 10 starts...

Brian Hoyer- .625
Derek Anderson- .471
Tim Couch- .373
Trent Dilfer- .364
Kelly Holcomb- .333
 
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AKAK said:
He really wasn't that bad. Kid never had a chance.
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He and David Carr are the poster-children for why it's a bad idea to throw your shiny, new #1 pick to the wolves behind a dreadful OL.

Couch actually had some moments in 2001-2002 where he looked like he could truly be a franchise QB. That all fell apart as the injuries mounted and the fans started to turn on him in favor of Kelly Holcomb.
 
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