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Well then, I guess I'll take the time to formally withdraw my name from consideration as well...I think they've withdrawn from consideration too
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tsteele316
Mr. Such and Such
This whole thing has the chance to massively implode. I'll give them mild credit for identifying their guy and not settling for stiffs like Detroit and Washington. They're going for their own potential stiff.
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I tend to agree. People are making a big deal of some guys withdrawing. But guess what, if the Browns hired any of those guys the fans would have went balistic. So are they withdrawing? Or the Browns have told them they are not interested, and to save face they are "withdrawing". Really the only name that withrew that hurt was McDaniels.
So the Browns want Gase... and hopefully the interview Roman too. I have no problem with them willing wait on WINNING cordinators to finish their season. It isn't like you get a blue ribbon if you hire your head coach the fastest. Take your time and get it right this time!!!
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McDaniels withdrawing didn't hurt. It says they aren't going to repeat Denver's mistakes.
This team doesn't need another "hope this coordinator is a good head man" type scenario. This team needs stability, a proven system that would at least bring them back to respectability and a voice that everyone can trust.
The situation in Cleveland is toxic and will remain so until the team starts winning games. What was a bad situation when the walking colostomy bag named Shurmur got canned was only slightly improved by Chud, mainly due to the team playing well above its head early on. Once the injuries started and once Chud got canned, it's a situation that won't be fixed anytime soon - very similar to what the Raiders went through after in the years following chucky leaving, only without the super bowl appearances, etc etc. They haven't fixed that in a decade - the Browns aren't likely too either unless this front office hires someone who can bring in stability so the guy after him can build it up into a contender.
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Nope, what the Browns need is to win. I don't care who does it. Winning will lead to stability and getting rid of the toxic atmosphere.
And guess what, the best way to find the guy (now) is to go after the "hope this coordinator is a good head man" scenario. Who else is out there? Besides a college head coach, I don't see a stable NFL head coach out there that is available.
And guess what, the best way to find the guy (now) is to go after the "hope this coordinator is a good head man" scenario. Who else is out there? Besides a college head coach, I don't see a stable NFL head coach out there that is available.
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Buckeneye
I lead, you follow.
I love Banner and the unending stance of 'I only believe X position should make a pre-determined amount of money'.
I would really like to resign Ward. Mack it depends on the offer. He makes solid protection calls and he's a good pass blocker. Gets zero push in the run game. I'd like to keep him and have our next coach light a fire under his ass.
Speaking of Oline. Thomas has a few more good years left. Really hoping he can rest this off season and come back 100%. His play has dipped a little this past 18 months or so.
I would really like to resign Ward. Mack it depends on the offer. He makes solid protection calls and he's a good pass blocker. Gets zero push in the run game. I'd like to keep him and have our next coach light a fire under his ass.
Speaking of Oline. Thomas has a few more good years left. Really hoping he can rest this off season and come back 100%. His play has dipped a little this past 18 months or so.
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Lovie Smith was available - twice. Decent, proven coaches were there to be had if they didn't dick around.
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Jimmy Haslam wrote us a letter!
http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2014/01/jimmy_haslams_letter_to_clevel.html
Here is the boilerplate for my response:
http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2014/01/jimmy_haslams_letter_to_clevel.html
Here is the boilerplate for my response:
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At this point the same process we're seeing or rather not seeing will be playing out again in 24-36 months. The guy coming in will have a crap roster minus a handful of pieces, a team that has low morale and a front office with no plan. No one will win with this roster, however, someone can come in and be stable enough that they start to build something instead of the stupid ass 'win now' mentality this team seems to want.
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One of THE classic sports moments in Cleveland radio history this morning. Since Gase is apparently their frontrunner, considering they've let all these other guys take other jobs and they insist they're waiting to interview him, the Fan had a Denver beat reporter from their sister station on to talk about him, expecting that they were going to here a lot of puff and have to wade through the bullshit to decipher what the guy was really saying. The interview lasted almost 10 minutes...after about 7, the interviewers started getting agitated, not at the guy, but at what they were hearing . Among the "highlights" are (and I am transposing from what I remember, so this is paraphrasing, but it is close):
Q: "So then did Gase call the plays for Denver's record-setting offense this year?"
A: "No, he gave Peyton certain 'concepts' and Peyton called the plays."
Q: "Well did he at least assert his authority in some way and overrule Peyton? Say we can't do it this way, we need to do it that way?"
A: "To my knowledge, that never happened."
Q: "So what do the people in Denver say about this guy then?"
A: "Most of the people I talked to in the complex aren't sure he's at all ready to be a head coach anywhere."
and at the end, when they were clearly agitated...
Q: "Why in the world do we want this guy here?"
A: (after a period of awkward silence) "Because he's a young, exciting coaching candidate that..."
Q: "What the hell is so exciting about him?"
A: "I have no idea."
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One of THE classic sports moments in Cleveland radio history this morning. Since Gase is apparently their frontrunner, considering they've let all these other guys take other jobs and they insist they're waiting to interview him, the Fan had a Denver beat reporter from their sister station on to talk about him, expecting that they were going to here a lot of puff and have to wade through the bull[Mark May] to decipher what the guy was really saying. The interview lasted almost 10 minutes...after about 7, the interviewers started getting agitated, not at the guy, but at what they were hearing . Among the "highlights" are (and I am transposing from what I remember, so this is paraphrasing, but it is close):
Q: "So then did Gase call the plays for Denver's record-setting offense this year?"
A: "No, he gave Peyton certain 'concepts' and Peyton called the plays."
Q: "Well did he at least assert his authority in some way and overrule Peyton? Say we can't do it this way, we need to do it that way?"
A: "To my knowledge, that never happened."
Q: "So what do the people in Denver say about this guy then?"
A: "Most of the people I talked to in the complex aren't sure he's at all ready to be a head coach anywhere."
and at the end, when they were clearly agitated...
Q: "Why in the world do we want this guy here?"
A: (after a period of awkward silence) "Because he's a young, exciting coaching candidate that..."
Q: "What the hell is so exciting about him?"
A: "I have no idea."
Nick Siciliano of the NFL.
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