Cleveland Browns (2013 Season)

[NFBuck]

Might as well start this shit show. The CHUD era kicks off...

 

[NFBuck]

I love how "there's always next year" is immediately added to all cleveland thread tags.

 

[TooTall]

Might as well start this shit show. The CHUD era kicks off...

 

[LitlBuck]

Unlike the majority of you guys, I am satisfied with the Chud hiring because I really didn't see anything else out there that I liked besides maybe Trestman or Zimmer and neither one of them has been a head coach in the NFL similar to Chud. So I guess I will take a wait and see attitude on him.

It will be interesting to see who they bring in as GM. Personally, I would like to see them bring in Gamble from the 49ers but there are other guys out there that also intrigue me like George Paton (Minnesota) and Idzik (Seattle).

Also, from everything that I have read, it looks like Turner is going to be the OC and unlike some of you I would rather see a more aggressive DC other than Jauron.

 

[IronBuckI]

Unlike the majority of you guys, I am satisfied with the Chud hiring because I really didn't see anything else out there that I liked besides maybe Trestman or Zimmer and neither one of them has been a head coach in the NFL similar to Chud. So I guess I will take a wait and see attitude on him.

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Also, from everything that I have read, it looks like Turner is going to be the OC and unlike some of you I would rather see a more aggressive DC other than Jauron.

Agreed.

 

[AuTX Buckeye]

Unlike the majority of you guys, I am satisfied with the Chud hiring because I really didn't see anything else out there that I liked besides maybe Trestman or Zimmer and neither one of them has been a head coach in the NFL similar to Chud. So I guess I will take a wait and see attitude on him.

It will be interesting to see who they bring in as GM. Personally, I would like to see them bring in Gamble from the 49ers but there are other guys out there that also intrigue me like George Paton (Minnesota) and Idzik (Seattle).

Also, from everything that I have read, it looks like Turner is going to be the OC and unlike some of you I would rather see a more aggressive DC other than Jauron.

Paging one Rob Ryan.. Rob Ryan please report to Lake Erie your old job is calling you home

 

[LitlBuck]

Paging one Rob Ryan.. Rob Ryan please report to Lake Erie your old job is calling you home

It will be interesting to see where he lands. I certainly do not think he is landing back in Cleveland. I don't know if he was the scapegoat or not down in Dallas but they did have pretty good defensive personnel down there but injuries were a factor.

 

[colobuck79]

Since I heard that Chud sat in the freezing cold dog pound and has eaten dog biscuits, I am liking him more.

 

[AuTX Buckeye]

It will be interesting to see where he lands. I certainly do not think he is landing back in Cleveland. I don't know if he was the scapegoat or not down in Dallas but they did have pretty good defensive personnel down there but injuries were a factor.

Yeah i was just messing with ya... :topic: Dallas is never going to succeed until Jones is gone... the money must be outstanding there because there's no reason as a coach to go there.

 

[broken24]

Browns are $35 Million under the cap (yes I know people say its $49 million but that includes the carry over which is irreverent). Who do we keep? and Who do we add?

Browns FA:
Sheldon Brown, CB
Josh Cribbs, WR/ST
Phil Dawson, PK
Scott Fujita, LB
Reggie Hodges, P
Brandon Jackson, RB
Josh Johnson, QB
Kaluka Maiava, LB
Mohamed Massaquoi, WR
Juqua Parker, DE
Alex Smith, TE/FB
Ray Ventrone, DB/ST
Ben Watson, TE

Exclusive Rights Free Agents:
Auston English, DE
Emmanuel Stephens, DE
Christian Yount, LS

Restricted Free Agents:
Jordan Norwood, WR
Chris Ogbonnaya, RB
Eddie Williams, FB

Top 30 out of 50:
Rank Player Team Pos. Age Status
1. Ryan Clady DEN OT 26
2. Jairus Byrd BUF S 26
3. Victor Cruz NYG WR 26 R
4. Andre Smith CIN OT 26
5. Greg Jennings GB WR 29
6. Henry Melton CHI DT 26
7. Dwayne Bowe KC WR 28 F
8. Wes Welker NE WR 32 F
9. Joe Flacco BAL QB 28
10. Sebastian Vollmer NE OT 28
11. Andy Levitre BUF G 27
12. Mike Wallace PIT WR 27 F
13. Michael Bennett TB DE 27
14. Steven Jackson STL RB 30
15. Dashon Goldson SF S 28 F
16. Anthony Spencer DAL OLB 29 F
17. Danny Amendola STL WR 27
18. Branden Albert KC OT 28
19. Brent Grimes ATL CB 30 F
20. Will Beatty NYG OT 28
21. Jake Long MIA OT 28
22. Randy Starks MIA DT 29
23. Phil Loadholt MIN OT 27
24. Aqib Talib NE CB 27
25. Richard Seymour OAK DT 33
26. Cliff Avril DET DE 26 F
27. Martellus Bennett NYG TE 26
28. Jermon Bushrod NO OT 29
29. Kenny Phillips NYG S 26
30. William Moore ATL S 28

 

[Buckeneye]

Chud supposedly to let go of Jauron as soon
As tomorrow.

This is going to be a fucking disaster. Not like
It's anything different then usual.

 

[LitlBuck]

Chud supposedly to let go of Jauron as soon
As tomorrow.

This is going to be a fucking disaster. Not like
It's anything different then usual.

Let the guy try his system with his coaches/players and then if it doesn't work out then you can bash him. I was not a big Jauron fan because I like aggressive defenses and I do not think he ran one. I don't know why you are judging Chud before he even has his entire system in place.

 

[Buckeneye]

Let the guy try his system with his coaches/players and then if it doesn't work out then you can bash him. I was not a big Jauron fan because I like aggressive defenses and I do not think he ran one. I don't know why you are judging Chud before he even has his entire system in place.

I'm a firm believer in the phrase "don't fix it if it ain't broke".

Fact is - the defense has provided the only consistency on this
Team. They'll kept us in games and have shown that ability
Despite having few playmakers, a lack of depth and littered with
Late round picks and free agents.

I feel we took a step forward in that department and now by switching
Defenses we increase our draft needs by position. I don't consider that a smart move.


Edit: I love defenses that set the tone by attacking. I don't blame Jauron for not being
So risky on blitzes though - we don't have great cover personnel outside of Haden. Our
Linebackers are decent in zone with their read and react.

This defense has been disciplined, sound and "heady" for what they lack in athletic ability and
Speed. Give Jauron some playmakers and I think his aggressiveness would be evident.

 

[Tonyank]

 

[buckiprof]

I'm a firm believer in the phrase "don't fix it if it ain't broke".

Fact is - the defense has provided the only consistency on this
Team. They'll kept us in games and have shown that ability
Despite having few playmakers, a lack of depth and littered with
Late round picks and free agents.

I too like the "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" line if thinking and I too thought the defense was looking decent. But the numbers don't support that "belief":

Browns defenseGame Averages (2012)



PTS per game 23.0 (ranked 19th)

YDS per game 363.8 (ranked 23rd)

PASS YDS per game 245.2 (ranked 25th)

RUSH YDS per game 118.6 (ranked 19th)

While I was hoping for a Smith/Turner combo, I will give Chud a chance. I am neither excited nor angry about the hire. I am still most concerned about Jimmy and Joe. Jimmy is showing early signs of following the Jones/Davis owner model and Banner has been on a major power grab and I think he is starting to believe that he is a talent evaluator too.

I have had an uncomfortable feeling about Jimmy and Joe for a couple of months....hope I am wrong.