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Cleveland Browns (2012 season)

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Buckeye513;2286764; said:
I'll be shocked if it's Kelly barring Haslam going full retard with the dollars. Kelly is a perfect fit for the Eagles with their offensive talent. Also, it's the fucking Browns.
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Eagles offensive talent? Fowles at QB, Desean Jackson has disappeared, Maclin can't stay healthy and Richardson can hang with McCoy. Cleveland's offensive line is better.

The Eagles talent level has been vastly overrated the last couple years. Andy Reid didn't suddenly forget how to coach.
 
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Jake;2286895; said:
Eagles offensive talent? Fowles at QB, Desean Jackson has disappeared, Maclin can't stay healthy and Richardson can hang with McCoy. Cleveland's offensive line is better.

The Eagles talent level has been vastly overrated the last couple years. Andy Reid didn't suddenly forget how to coach.
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Foles as opposed to Brandon Weeden and Colt McCoy? Jackson missed five games and ended up with 700 yards (15.6 yards/catch) in the season he disappeared in, Maclin's missed five games in four years, and they're likely taking the best OL in the draft. In no way does the Browns' personnel fit Kelly's schtick better than Philadelphia's.
 
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Buckeye513;2286921; said:
Foles as opposed to Brandon Weeden and Colt McCoy? Jackson missed five games and ended up with 700 yards (15.6 yards/catch) in the season he disappeared in, Maclin's missed five games in four years, and they're likely taking the best OL in the draft. In no way does the Browns' personnel fit Kelly's schtick better than Philadelphia's.
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The Eagles' o-line is a dumpster fire. Their offense doesn't fit anybody's system right now.
 
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jlb1705;2286931; said:
The Eagles' o-line is a dumpster fire. Their offense doesn't fit anybody's system right now.
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...and if anything, Colt McCoy and Weeden both have experience in a shotgun, spread-based offense. There are solid pieces on the OL, better than the iggles anyway. Gordon looks like a legit WR, and Little even came on late. Richardson should fit well in a spread-based offense with his ability to run and catch. This roster is not nearly as bad a fit for Kelly as his detractors are making it out to be. Plus, a young roster like this might really respond to a coach like Kelly.
 
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jlb1705;2286931; said:
The Eagles' o-line is a dumpster fire. Their offense doesn't fit anybody's system right now.
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not only that, but they are like $18 million over the cap as it stands right now, and that's with DRC walking.

so, no qb, no ol, and a cap mess that can really only be fixed by cutting vick and nnamdi. and that might free up enough cap to re-sign darryl tapp and akeem dent.
 
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Buckeye513;2286921; said:
Foles as opposed to Brandon Weeden and Colt McCoy? Jackson missed five games and ended up with 700 yards (15.6 yards/catch) in the season he disappeared in, Maclin's missed five games in four years, and they're likely taking the best OL in the draft. In no way does the Browns' personnel fit Kelly's schtick better than Philadelphia's.
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I never said it did, but I'll elaborate on what I did say.

Foles is as proven as Weeden at this point. Jackson's yardage and touchdown totals have declined for 3 consecutive years and Maclin has never had 1,000 yards. They can draft an OL and see what happens while the Browns already have a better one than any they have in Joe Thomas.

Defensively, the Eagles wasted a lot of cap space on name players and got disappointing results.

I'll say it again, their talent has been vastly overrated the last couple years, and they're still going to have to deal with the cap issues resulting from it for the near future.
 
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y0yoyoin;2286944; said:
better odds:

Thad Lewis is starting QB week 1
OR
Geno Smith is starting QB week 1
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Weeden is just as athletic as Geno. Any pick
On a QB is a waste of a draft.

I don't think we'll be seeing a "spread" by concept
Of college football. I think we'll be seeing a lot of
The offense based on '11' personnel though with everything
Out if the single back under-center.
 
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y0yoyoin;2286944; said:
better odds:

Thad Lewis is starting QB week 1
OR
Geno Smith is starting QB week 1
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No way on earth the Browns draft Geno Smith. 10000x better chance Thad Lewis is the starter.

I'm completely undecided on if I like Chip Kelly as HC or not. I really dont know what to think.
 
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strohs;2287017; said:
No way on earth the Browns draft Geno Smith. 10000x better chance Thad Lewis is the starter. We are talking about the Browns right? So?

I'm completely undecided on if I like Chip Kelly as HC or not. I really dont know what to think. Same. I want to see what assistants he hires and who he seeks advice from. But they could have done much worse.
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Maybe Eric Wedge for OC?
 
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Regarding the Eagles personnel, the Eagles have a bunch of good skill position players on offense, but they're bad at defense and have the worst offensive line in football. I'd probably say that three of their starting offensive linemen are lucky to be starting for a team in the NFL. Backups at best. They're a few years away from being competitive in that division. The next Eagles head coach will be there long enough to get fired after a few mediocre seasons. The coach after that will have some talent to work with.

I will like the Kelly hire if it happens. Better than the alternatives. Would like to see Roman get a shot, but Kelly's impact could be greater.
 
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OHSportsFan;2286840; said:
I'm really not that upset.

Kind of excited actually- seems like the best big swing they can take. I'd rather strike out doing this than hit a squibber and trip over the bat on the way out of the batter's box.

I mean, [censored] it, what's the worst that can happen...that hasn't already? This may just work.
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Yep, I like this choice better than most mentioned. Can't really get much worse than we've seen. The Browns are a pretty young team so maybe a college coach will work out.
 
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Never let your guy get on a plane to interview somewhere else, unless you don't really think he's your guy. Seal the deal.
 
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