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Cleveland Browns (2007 & prior)

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scarletngrey77 said:
The top NT's in the draft

1. Haloti Ngata 6'4" 338 lbs. 5.12
2. Gabe Watson 6'3" 339 lbs. 5.25
3. Rod Wright 6'5" 300 lbs. 5.06(maybe a DE)
4. Babatunda Oshinowo 6'2" 304 lbs. 5.33
5. Steve Fifita 6'0" 323 lbs. 5.14
6. Montavious Stanley 6'3" 313 lbs. 5.20
7. Le Kevin Smith 6'3" 316 lbs. 5.05
8. Domata Peko 6'3" 307 lbs. 5.32
9. Gerald Anderson 6'2" 315 lbs. 5.43
10. Kwakou Robinson 6'4" 331 lbs. 5.40

Its very important that we get one of those above.

Top DE's in the draft

1. Brodrick Bunkley 6'3" 306 lbs. 4.94
2. Orien Harris 6'3" 301 lbs. 5.27
3. Barry Cofield 6'4" 304 lbs. 4.94
4. Manaia Brown 6'3" 301 lbs. 5.02
5. Jason Hatcher 6'6" 284 lbs. 4.96
6. Kedric Golston 6'4" 300 lbs. 4.90
7. Titus Adams 6'3" 306 lbs. 5.14
8. Julian Jenkins 6'4" 277 lbs. 5.04
9. Larry Dibbles 6'2" 285 lbs. 5.10
10. Manase Hopoi 6'4" 290 lbs. 5.20

Its hard to rank the DE's, but I rated them as how well they will fit into the Browns schemes. I think we should take probably two of the above, but definantly one.
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no mario williams on your list?
 
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jimotis4heisman said:
no mario williams on your list?
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He wouldnt fit into a 3-4 defense that well.

His strength is his pass rushing and that makes him a better fit for a 4-3. Thats why, despite what people say there is no way in hell he signs with the Jets(whom run a 3-4 defense.)

The reason why hes going to be drafted really high is his pass rushing ability is his strength, if hes goes to a 3-4 team it wont be a good fit.
 
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scarletngrey77 said:
What do you guys think of Ahmad Brooks('64" 250 lb. Virgina)

He played in a 3-4 in college I believe, and was thought to be a top-15 pick before he got injuried his senior year and got in trouble.

Is he in the draft or what? I heard hes in the supplemental draft, but im not sure how that works out...
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Crennel's a pretty straight shooter, doubt he'd take someone with the baggage of Brooks.
 
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http://nfl.com/news/story/9344736

"The guy who might warrant the most compensation right now is Faine. There is only one center with a first-round grade in the draft, and that is Nick Mangold from Ohio State. Faine has a modest salary at just over $500,000 and has two years left on his original deal. He has some medical history, but he also has 27 starts in the last two seasons. Faine could easily justify a third-round pick for his services. Is he a better player than Harrington or Moulds? Probably not, but he has the criteria for a better trade value."
 
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ABJ

3/30/06

Browns notebook

No takers yet on trade for Faine

Savage to follow up after his return from meetings

By Patrick McManamon

Beacon Journal sportswriter



ORLANDO - Browns General Manager Phil Savage spent time at the NFL Meetings trolling the waters for a potential trade of center Jeff Faine but left with no takers.

``People are distracted here,'' Savage said Wednesday. ``What you do here is get it in their minds, then follow up.''

Savage said he talked to five or six teams, including the Green Bay Packers, who are looking for a center.

The Browns are trying to grant Faine's request for a trade following the signing of LeCharles Bentley as a free agent.

Preseason schedule

The NFL released its preseason schedule, and the Browns open at the Philadelphia Eagles the weekend of Aug. 10-14.

The next three weekends, they host the Detroit Lions, play at Buffalo and host the Chicago Bears. Specific dates and times will be announced soon.
The league expects to release the full schedule in April.

On the field

Coach Romeo Crennel made one thing clear about Willie McGinest: The free-agent signee will always be on the field for the Browns defense.

``Because one of the needs we have is a pass rusher, and I think he can bring that to this team,'' Crennel said. ``Until we get somebody else to add to him or somebody else better, then he's going to be playing.''

McGinest will line up in the base defense at left outside linebacker.

On the field II

Crennel said Matt Stewart could move to inside linebacker, but he admitted the Browns need to add an inside linebacker.

That could happen in the draft. A year ago, the Cincinnati Bengals got Odell Thurman, and the Seattle Seahawks took Lofa Tatupu in round two.

Crennel also said Daylon McCutcheon and Gary Baxter will be his starting cornerbacks, with Leigh Bodden the nickel back. The team knows Baxter can play safety, but will not move him because of the lack of depth at corner.

League news

The league concluded its business without doing much major business.

Touchdown celebrations now have limits: Players may not go to the ground, and they may not use props (like Chad Johnson putting the football with the pylon). However, players still may dance, spike the ball or spike it over the goal post -- as long as celebrations do not linger.

The most significant rules change is that defensive players must avoid low hits on quarterbacks if possible.

The league tabled a motion to expand the playoffs to 14 teams, voted down a proposal to allow receivers to re-set after flinching without getting a false-start penalty and voted against making all penalties reviewable.

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Canton

3/30/06

Browns: Baxter says he’s primed for big year
Thursday, March 30, 2006
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When Phil Savage committed $30 million to free agent Gary Baxter last March, it meant one thing.

Savage thought Baxter could be a shut-down cornerback for the Browns.

It’s what Baxter thought and still thinks.

When Baxter heard speculation from the NFL annual meetings that the Browns might use him at safety, allowing Daylon McCutcheon and Leigh Bodden to be the two starting cornerbacks, Baxter thought something else.
Anything to that possibility?

“None,” Baxter said Wednesday. “None at all.

“I’m a cornerback. Somebody might have put that in a paper because they know I have the ability to play safety. I am a cornerback.

“Safety might be an option down the line in my career.”

Baxter, 27, was starting to hit his stride as a first-year Brown when his arm got caught in a bad spot in an Oct. 23 game against Detroit. He suffered a pectoral tear that wiped out the last 11 games.

“I’m 100 percent,” Baxter said. “If minicamp started tomorrow, I’d be able to participate in every last thing.”

Baxter was one of the draft finds (No. 62, 2001) who gave Savage a reputation for being general manager material.

By 2004, Baxter was a good starting cornerback for the Ravens, but he wants to be more than that with the Browns.

“I’m trying to have a Pro Bowl season,” Baxter said. “I’ve added things to my repertoire. Each year, I seem to learn more. I definitely feel I’m still on the rise.”

The down time ate at Baxter. He’s a wired guy who was at Baylor when he sold Savage by playing like a madman even at the end of blowout games.

He’s the type who always has to be doing something, football or otherwise.

This week, he’s in Washington, promoting his Second Line of Defense Foundation. He has scheduled meetings with congressmen and Sen. George Voinovich, R-Ohio.

The foundation is dedicated to combating obesity in children.

“I wanted to do something different, where there’s a need,” Baxter said.

“We’re trying to make a difference.”

Baxter flew under the public radar last year. He was among the highest-paid Browns, but Romeo Crennel’s defense, Braylon Edwards’ rookie year, Reuben Droughns’ run at 1,000 yards and the grooming of Charlie Frye were bigger stories. After five games, Baxter’s season was done. Now, he’s lifting weights, preparing for the spring program, planning to resurface as a leader.

“The first year,” he said, “you try to get a feel for the guys. I didn’t want to step on any toes.

“Everybody was kind of walking in the dark with their eyes closed.”

The team went 6-10, but Savage has added key free agents, including nose tackle Ted Washington and linebacker Willie McGinest on Baxter’s side of the ball. Baxter suspects more defensive help will be added on the first day of the April 29-30 draft.

“Bottom line, it’s time to win,” Baxter said. “It’s time for everybody to step up.

“With the moves we have made, and the attitude the team has ... I have no problems with fans or people talking about playoff expectations.”

Baxter has spent his entire career associated with Savage.

“Phil is very excited,” Baxter said. “I’m excited with the moves he’s made. I can’t wait to get started.”

The team’s biggest issue is finding out whether Frye or Trent Dilfer can be a winning quarterback in Cleveland.

“Charlie is a good young talent,” Baxter said. “I’m not a coach, but ... I would leave it at an open competition. Let the best man win.

“You have to treat Charlie’s situation the same as Pittsburgh treated (Ben) Roethlisberger’s. Don’t ask him to do more than he can.

“As for Trent, he’s a veteran. He’s a winner.”

As for Baxter?

His injury has healed. Barring a huge surprise, he’s one of the starting cornerbacks. Period.

Reach Repository sports writer

Steve Doerschuk at (330) 580-8347 or e-mail:

[email protected]



Preseason opponents
The Browns revealed their four preseason opponents Wednesday, saying exact times and dates will be announced soon. The club said the preseason games will be:
Aug. 10-14 at Philadelphia.
Aug. 17-21 at home against Detroit.
Aug. 24-28 at Buffalo.
Aug. 31-Sept. 2 at home against Chicago.
The regular-season schedule will be announced in April. STEVE DOERSCHUK
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If I were the Browns I wouldn't trade Faine for anything less than a second rounder, or maybe one of the first 5 3rd round picks. Here's how I see it.

-Faine was one of the best centers in the draft when he was drafted in the 1st round.
-If the Browns don't trade Faine he will be the starting center this season and is their 3rd best lineman.
-There is only 1 center in the draft this season that is better than Faine.
-He's cheep and is signed for several more years.
-Faine has been more productive for the Browns than any of their other 1st round picks.

If I'm Savage I'm only trading Faine if I get a good offer. I like the idea of having 6 O-linemen that are good enough to start in the NFL.
 
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-Faine was one of the best centers in the draft when he was drafted in the 1st round.
-If the Browns don't trade Faine he will be the starting center this season and is their 3rd best lineman.
-There is only 1 center in the draft this season that is better than Faine.
-He's cheep and is signed for several more years.
-Faine has been more productive for the Browns than any of their other 1st round picks.
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- and he hasnt come close to meeting that hype.
- it is debateable that schaffer, andruzzi and coleman are all worse at their positions than faine is at center. faine certainly cannot play guard.
- right now yes. in 2 years, several will be better.
- he has also finished on the DL every year, gets manhandled by bigger DL, and struggles to keep on weight. Given the history of Cleveland's first round picks, saying he has been the most productive doesnt say much.

Take a 3rd rounder for him from GB and be happy.
 
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exhawg said:
Green Bay has the 3rd pick in the 3rd round which falls into what I said I would ask for him. Now if a team like Seattle wanted him I would trade him for their second, but not their 3rd.
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i would take any team's 3rd.

teams know that he's only good for 10-12 games a year. the only way cleveland gets a late 2nd for him is if they toss in an early day 2 pick.
 
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theOBR.com

3/30

Chat with Adam Caplan(Sirius Radio I believe)

He seems very convinced that we take Wimbley if Ngata and Bunkley are gone, may be even above Bunkley. I have mixed feelings about drafting Wimbley in the first. This was his first year as a starter, and he got injured for a few games. I dont like guys that throw up a couple of decent combine numbers and then all of the sudden their stock soars. Ive seen Bunkley play, and was impressed with him before the combine. Wimbley could be a great player, but he hasnt stood out in college at all. Even FSU fans dont think he should go in the first round.
 
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Canton

3/31/06

Cofield could add more local flavor

Friday, March 31, 2006


<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD>[FONT=Verdana, Times New Roman, arial, helvetica, sans-serif]By Steve Doerschuk REPOSITORY SPORTS WRITER[/FONT]


You didn’t have to be from the South to play for Butch Davis. But it helped.
You can’t be sure the Browns will pounce on defensive end candidate Barry Cofield because he went to high school 8 miles from Cleveland Browns Stadium. But it doesn’t hurt.

The regime that replaced Davis has erased the aversion to northern exposure.

Three years ago, it would have been better for Cofield to have grown up in Key Largo and played for Miami. Now, it’s just as well that he starred at Cleveland Heights and went to Northwestern because they chased him before Ohio State did.

He thinks of the Browns as “we.”

“We had some of the best fans in the country,” Cofield said. “The Dawg Pound was just ingrained in me as a youth.”

Cofield said he was too young to hate Art Modell for moving the Browns to Baltimore in 1995. In fact, he admits he was “kind of a Ravens fan” in 2000, when the former Browns rode a monster defense to a Super Bowl win.

Mostly, Cofield has remained a Browns fan. That will hold true at least until April 29, when he is projected to be drafted as high as Round 2.

“When I’ve talked to my friends, it’s like, I don’t know if I can be a Browns fan much longer,” Cofield said. “It’s been a good 21-year run, but if they don’t pick me up in April, I won’t be a Browns fan any more.

“But it would be an honor and a great experience to play for coach Crennel, and it would be my ideal choice.”

Cofield was measured at 6-foot-4 and weighed 304 pounds at the NFL Combine. That’s ideal for defensive end on Romeo Crennel’s three-man front. Veteran Orpheus Roye played the position at 6-4, 305 pounds in 2005.

His former Northwestern teammate Luis Castillo, a first-round draft pick by the Chargers last year, comes to mind.

“I played tackle and end off and on, so I feel comfortable either way,” Cofield said. “It’s possible I could end up like Luis, as a 3-4 end.”

The Combine helped Castillo last year and could give Cofield a bump in 2006. Whereas Castillo was a late first-round pick, Cofield shapes up as a third-round candidate for Cleveland. He’s not quite as athletic as Round 2 prospect Rodrique Wright of Texas, but he seems more disciplined and ready to plug into the pros.

Cofield was clocked in the 4.95 range in the 40 and hoisted 225 pounds 35 times. He is well-seasoned, having played a lot as a freshman, starting at end as a sophomore, and starting at tackle as a junior and senior.

He is viewed as a smart player who diagnoses plays quickly but needs more of a mean streak. He made 63 tackles, seven for loss, and added two sacks in 2005. Some scouts see him as similar to Ty Warren, a former first-round pick who played for Crennel in New England.

“I feel I have the ideal size to either play like a run-stopping end or a pass-rushing tackle. If a coach wanted me to put on 10 pounds and play the nose, I feel I can do that.

“I weighed about 285 when I got to Northwestern. I put on 20 pounds in the blink of an eye ... a couple trips to Burger King. I’ve been consistently over 300 pounds since my sophomore year.”

Soon it will be time for the Browns to weigh in on draft day. Cofield might sweat off a few pounds while hoping they call his name.

“It would be a dream come true,” he said.

Reach Repository sports writer Steve Doerschuk at (330) 580-8347 or e-mail: [email protected]

Exclusion
to infusion
Browns with Ohio ties who were added over the last year:
n OL LeCharles Bentley, Cleveland St. Ignatius/Ohio State.
n WR Joe Jurevicius, Mentor Lake Catholic
n P Dave Zastudil, Bay Village/Ohio U.
n OL Bob Hallen Mentor/Kent State
n LB Matt Stewart, Columbus DeSales
n DE Simon Fraser, Upper Arlington/Ohio State
n QB Charlie Frye, Willard/Akron
n WR Josh Cribbs, Kent State Browns with Ohio ties on the roster at the close of the 2004 season: n LB Ben Taylor, Bellaire (injured reserve)


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