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Clemson Tigers (official thread)



"(Saturday) was the first real look at their offense as they continue into the season and get things rolling," Matich said on ESPN2 following the network's coverage of the game. "And they were abysmal. Abysmal. Up until late in the game, Clemson couldn't run the ball at all. D.J. Uiagalelei completed a lot of passes, but they were all very, very short completions. This is an offense that looks nothing like the offense that (D.J.) Uiagalelei piloted against Boston College and Notre Dame last year where he was back there throwing the ball down the field."
 
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Clemson's offense struggles again as Tigers fall to 2-2 after double-OT loss to NC State

"We've got to own it," coach Dabo Swinney said afterward. "It's where we are right now. We need to get back to work on Monday, continue to learn, continue to grow, continue to fight, and continue to stay together. Let's just find a way to win a game, find a way to get on track and see if we can build some momentum in our season.

Entire article: https://www.espn.com/college-footba...again-tigers-fall-2-2-double-ot-loss-nc-state

Yeah, Dabo owns it.
 
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Just sayin': Ohio State isn't the only school where the fanbase is clambering about a coordinator and the scheme that they run. However, in Clemson's case it is on the offensive side. Here are just a few of their posts:

Does the offense gave "fun" w/ an "archaic" offensive scheme
When the offense trots out there do they get excited knowing the play calls...do they have confidence that the call gives them the greatest chance for success? Ever have a job or assigned task and think "this is just a dumb waste of time"? Hmm, one wonders what they are thinking.

Our problems can solved quickly
They won't be solved this year. However, here's what we need to do to fix this:
1. Stop hiring coaches with little experience just because they have Clemson degrees
2. Stop giving scholarships to coach's sons
3. Use the transfer portal
4. Replace Elliot and the offensive staff in the off-season
5. Hire an innovative OC with a proven track record of success
It seems like most Clemson fans accept this. If Dabo won't do these things, D Rad may need to remind him of why he's making 9 million a year.

This offense
Is not well coached right now. A well coached team does not have this many penalties or missed assignments.

Staff that should be on the hot seat
1. Tony Elliot
2. Robbie Caldwell
3. Brandon Streeter
4. Lemanski Hall
Bad OC, bad OL, no progression at QB with Trevor and DJ, and under development at DE.
Would like to see all 3 replaced.

They need to bring back Chad Morris … NOW !
I know Chad is not on Dabo’s Christmas Card list but he needs him, now ! He should swallow his pride and make him an offer he can’t refuse…

https://www.tigernet.com/clemson-forum/clemson-football-1

:lol:
 
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Clempson fan showing some self awareness...

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secgrowa posted 3 weeks ago
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There is a level of complacency that has crept into the program. It shows in the overall coaching and planning for big games against quality opponents. We've gotten blown out the last 3 years in these games. And if it wasn't for TL's scrambling ability we would have lost to OSU before getting worked by LSU.


The ACC's overall decline has masked our own recent decline We play a lot of cupcakes every year and traditional ACC powers (FSU, Miami and VaTech) have all been down too. It's allowed us to win 6 straight ACC titles, but also has set us up to get pushed around in the playoffs.

The best is NOT the standard here at Clemson. Between the coaches kids on the teams and the coddling of clearly overmatched and outdated coaches, the "best" has been achieved largely on the backs of a few truly awesome athletes and QB's in particular.

Alabama has clearly put distance between themselves and us over the last few years. How many coordinators coaches have come and gone at Alabama in the last 3 years, yet they are still winning and producing Heisman winners? For that one night in Santa Clara back in 2019 we were CLEARLY the better team. And while we went on from there to sign coaches to extensions, Alabama took some to the woodshed and reminded them that WINNING big games is what matters most to them. T
Dabo can be both the best coach in the country while simultaneously being the program's biggest liability Between his clearly outdated stance on the transfer portal and his loyalty to ineffective coaches he has put the program on a lower trajectory that is could be. Don't get me wrong, he is still a net positive to Clemson on many levels, but what he once brought in terms of fresh ideas, new coaches and innovation years ago has started to turn into classic "coach speak", same-old, same-old and excuses.

IN Summation; we've become somewhat stale, lazy and complacent. It's on Dabo and the coaching staff to get us back on the right track in a college football world that is changing rapidly. As of now, it is unclear if they can pull it off.
All pretty darn good points.

  • The ACC has long been a conference that generally has one power program and a bunch of detritus beneath it. FSU in the first half of the 2010s, Clempson has been abe to step in and take over when Jimbo got lazy.
  • Clempson has risen to prominence behind a couple of generational QB talents and tremendous DL recruiting. Watson and Barbie were able to elevate those around them and mask a lot of flaws.
  • OL recruiting and play has never been a strong suit under Dabo, look how many Clempson OL are in the NFL and where they were drafted. Again, generational talents at QB have allowed play calling and execution to cover for underwhelming OLs.
  • Recruiting has remained strong, but not strong enough to overcome systemic issues.
  • DJ Uigeleilei was a 5*, top-10 recruit, but he's not dynamic like Watson and Lawrence were. That being the case, the play calling suffers, OL deficiencies surface and things turn ugly.
  • They're averaging 21 points per game and < 300 yards of offense per game. They've recruited well enough at the skill positions that that is pretty inexcusable. Chicken or egg deal...is the OL struggling because of the play calling or is the play calling uninspired because of s lousy OL?
  • Does Dabo NEED a generational talent at QB to truly be elite? Or does he just need to recruit better and find a better coach for the OL?
  • This isn't an aberration. Dabo needs to change the way he does things (or find another superstar qb talent) or else their days as an annual NC competitor are over.
You just hate to fucking see it.
 
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I guess the run of QBs has come to an end for ol Dabo(though I don't think anyone could've seen DJ not continuing that lineage). Welp, I hope it means that Clemson goes back to being... Clemson

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Clemson fans seem eager to part with the most successful coach they've ever had. May they get their wish.

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Clemson fans seem eager to part with the most successful coach they've ever had. May they get their wish.

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This isnt a suprise. Fans of good teams(past or present) can be very irrational. There are fans this year calling for Day and Coombs to be fired and Stroud benched. I don't think our fanbase can throw stones from our own glass house...
Btw, when Alabama lost in the NC to Clemson(2016), Finebaum's phone lines went crazy with Bama fans calling for Saban's job...
 
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