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Cincinnati Bearcats (Juggalos official thread of Faygo)

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Uconn and the juggalos cause they were in the big east and embarrassed themselves in bcs bowls? Defeats the point of the rule if you then include every cupcake team you can. Aren't the existance of kansas, vandy, and wake enough?
 
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ScriptOhio said:
Question: When are the Juggalos considered a Power 5 Conference team?

Answer: When they play a B1G school.

Big Ten recognizes Notre Dame, BYU, Army, Cincy & UConn as power opponents

Maybe the Big Ten saw enough out of UConn in a 9-6 loss at Missouri over the weekend. Maybe it was an honest mistake. Whatever the case, UConn will count toward the Big Ten’s new scheduling commitment to fulfill a new power conference opponent scheduling effort.

According to Brett McMurphy of ESPN, the Big Ten has decided that Notre Dame, BYU, Army, Cincinnati and UConn will satisfy the conference’s new scheduling commitment. The new scheduling direction of the conference will eliminate games against FCS opponents and will require at least one game against another power conference opponent each season. Just as the ACC and SEC have confirmed, Notre Dame and BYU will each count for that power conference opponent. The SEC also recognizes Army. For some reason, the Big Ten decided to throw UConn a bone and will count the Huskies as well.

Update: McMurphy has updated his original report to reflect the Big Ten’s decision to also count games against Navy as well.

Entire article: http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsport...dame-byu-army-cincy-uconn-as-power-opponents/

I can see Notre Dame, BYU, and maybe the three service academies; but not UConn and definitely not the Juggalos.
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So you will recognize army and navy but not UC? Ok I get hate but not ignorance.
 
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Honor&Glory said:
So you will recognize army and navy but not UC? Ok I get hate but not ignorance.
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It is not based on ignorance. It is based on tradition, the history of the programs, and the respect for the US service academies; who for the most part (over the years) have played a "major college" schedule. Cincinnati (for the most part) has played a lesser schedule in "minor conferences", i.e. Ohio Athletic Conference, Buckeye Athletic Conference, Mid-American Conference, Missouri Valley Conference, Conference USA, Big East, etc.:

Army, 652-484-51 (.571), 3 National titles, 3 Heisman trophy winners, 37 All-Americans.

Navy, 682-545-57 (.553), 1 National title, 2 Heisman trophy winners. 23 All-Americans.

Cincinnati, 588-565-51 (.510), 0 National titles, 0 Heisman trophy winners, 3 All-Americans.

Obviously I'm not looking at it through "Colerain HS colored glasses".....:biggrin:
 
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ScriptOhio said:
It is not based on ignorance. It is based on tradition, the history of the programs, and the respect for the US service academies; who for the most part (over the years) have played a "major college" schedule. Cincinnati (for the most part) has played a lesser schedule in "minor conferences", i.e. Ohio Athletic Conference, Buckeye Athletic Conference, Mid-American Conference, Missouri Valley Conference, Conference USA, Big East, etc.:

Army, 652-484-51 (.571), 3 National titles, 3 Heisman trophy winners, 37 All-Americans.

Navy, 682-545-57 (.553), 1 National title, 2 Heisman trophy winners. 23 All-Americans.

Cincinnati, 588-565-51 (.510), 0 National titles, 0 Heisman trophy winners, 3 All-Americans.

Obviously I'm not looking at it through "Colerain HS colored glasses".....:biggrin:
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Honest question: Were those natties before or after WWII?
 
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ScriptOhio said:
It is not based on ignorance. It is based on tradition, the history of the programs, and the respect for the US service academies; who for the most part (over the years) have played a "major college" schedule. Cincinnati (for the most part) has played a lesser schedule in "minor conferences", i.e. Ohio Athletic Conference, Buckeye Athletic Conference, Mid-American Conference, Missouri Valley Conference, Conference USA, Big East, etc.:

Army, 652-484-51 (.571), 3 National titles, 3 Heisman trophy winners, 37 All-Americans.

Navy, 682-545-57 (.553), 1 National title, 2 Heisman trophy winners. 23 All-Americans.

Cincinnati, 588-565-51 (.510), 0 National titles, 0 Heisman trophy winners, 3 All-Americans.

Obviously I'm not looking at it through "Colerain HS colored glasses".....:biggrin:
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By this reasoning we should also include smu. All joking aside I think it would be wise to include the service academies, byu and nd. They are all brand name programs and on a given year should be able to compete near the middle of a power 5. Playing those teams is seen as a big game and they are all in a different category than the the group of 5. Heck the top 3-4 teams in the Mac could beat any of those 5 teams or play them close but those are still seen as Mac teams.
 
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Honor&Glory said:
So you will recognize army and navy but not UC? Ok I get hate but not ignorance.
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I'm fine with the service academies out of shear respect, plus all 3 play triple option which is a headache to prepare for either way. Obviously Notre Dame.
Deciding which Mid Majors to arbitrarily consider P5 is... well... arbitrary... and just goes down a rabbit hole. What's the point of this rule if you can schedule UConn or BYU? Colorado State had double digit wins last year (including 2 wins over PAC and ACC schools), should we consider them P5 now too? And the irony is that the only one of these schools to win a single BCS bowl isn't included - Boise State (3-0). Cinci and UConn are a combined 0-3, BYU never saw a BCS bowl.

They're just making a joke out of their own rule. It's silly. But I suppose it demonstrates that there was more pushback than advertised and cutting the Illinois of the world some slack -- or whoever it is that's upset about having to schedule actual P5s annually.
 
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kujirakira said:
They're just making a joke out of their own rule. It's silly. But I suppose it demonstrates that there was more pushback than advertised and cutting the Illinois of the world some slack -- or whoever it is that's upset about having to schedule actual P5s annually.
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Agreed. Get rid of the rule if you aren't going to enforce it. Or keep it and enforce it. Play Notre Dame if you want, but you still need to play a P5 school. Play BYU if you want, but... same deal.

If teams like UC and BYU and UConn want to be counted as a P5 school, then join a P5 conference. Can't get a conference to invite you in? That's a "you" problem.
 
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Brutal shot taken by Gunner Kiel tonight. Kid shouldn't have even been playing. Five days after leaving the previous game with a concussion and he's back in there? Are the medical staff holdovers from the Dantonio era or something? If I were part of the Kiel family I'd be all over Tuberville, the administration, and anybody else I could get my hands on. I don't even give a shit about the Bearcats and I'm furious. The backup acquitted himself better tonight, but let's face it Kiel was rushed out there because the kid committed four fourth quarter turnovers on Saturday.
 
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Brutal shot taken by Gunner Kiel tonight. Kid shouldn't have even been playing. Five days after leaving the previous game with a concussion and he's back in there? Are the medical staff holdovers from the Dantonio era or something? If I were part of the Kiel family I'd be all over Tuberville, the administration, and anybody else I could get my hands on. I don't even give a [Mark May] about the Bearcats and I'm furious. The backup acquitted himself better tonight, but let's face it Kiel was rushed out there because the kid committed four fourth quarter turnovers on Saturday.
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At least they didn't go out him back in the game like Sugar Shane last season.
 
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