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Capital One Bowl: Georgia 24, Mich St 12 (Final)

bukIpower;1368210; said:
I can't wait for the day that all OSU, PSU,
WISC, Illinois, scUM, NW, and MSU are all great teams.
I hope that you are still young, because you'll probably have to wait quite a while....

bukIpower;1368210; said:
Because to be honest there's no reason why OSU/PSU/UM shouldn't be among the best, and WISC/Ill/NW/MSU all have the tools to be eventual great teams as well.
To be honest, there is - it's called lack of a recruiting base. Almost all of the great prospects in Ohio end up at Ohio State, and most of the great ones from Pennsylvania end up at Penn State or Ohio State; Michigan and Notre Dame still get a few kids here and there. The second-tier kids often take SEC / ACC / Big East offers over other Big Ten offers. There is very little high school talent in the rest of the Big Ten region, and much of that talent ends up at the Big Four (OSU, PSU, UM, ND) anyway, or heads out of the region. So, you have two teams in the region getting fat off of their local talent (OSU, PSU), two more teams who can still compete for that talent (UM, ND) and also have national recruiting power, and the rest of the Big Ten who are constantly scrambling to get: (a) the occasional in-state prospect with three/four-star talent, or (b) third-tier players from states with lots of high school talent (Ohio, Florida, Texas, etc.); or (c) JUCO's. Simply put, teams like Minnesota, Wisconsin, Illinois, Iowa, Purdue, and Michigan State can't consistently be competitive because they can't get the top talent on campus. The SEC - with huge talent pools in Florida, Georgia, and Louisiana - and the Big 12 - with a ton of high school talent in Texas - just don't have the same problems with recruiting ... and they also have other factors in their favor (primarily climate related) that Big 10 schools can't counter. Ditto, obviously, for Southern Cal.

bukIpower;1368210; said:
IMO, the outlook for the conference is extremely bright but not so much this year.
I do not see one shred of evidence in support of that statement.

Woe to the Big Ten if Ohio State ever decides to leave....
 
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tibor75;1368364; said:
61% winning percentage? yeah, impressive. :roll1:

My point was that after going 10-1 in '65 and 9-0-1 in '66, and being recognized as a National Champion in each of those years, he didn't leave for another job, since your post said MSU was "always" a "stepping stone to a better job".

Clearly, it wasn't always. :roll1:
 
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