Calling Time Outs

[cincibuck]

Two weeks in a row we've had coaches stand right next to the ref and call a time out on such short notice that play can't be stopped. It may be effective... it's batting 500 as I write... but it's an invitation to disaster.

You want to ice the kicker? Fine. But let's not allow it to go to this extreme. Stop it before someone gets hurt or a situation arises that gets out of hand...

It's a part of the trend to take responsibility and control out of the hands of the players and put it in the hands of the coach. I thought one of the major lessons that sports were to teach was that a player had to remain calm and under control in order to think in such situations.

 

[ArtilleryBuck]

I think they either get the time out called before the play is ran, or else you don't get the time out until after the play. There is no way that the kicker should have to kick twice because of those circumstances. Play until the whistle is blown. If they don't get the whistle blown in time......then, oh well...you should have said "time out" sooner.

 

[elliemae]

That was being discussed on ESPN this morning how that was not right & should not be allowed & I agree!

 

[elliemae]

I think they either get the time out called before the play is ran, or else you don't get the time out until after the play. There is no way that the kicker should have to kick twice because of those circumstances. Play until the whistle is blown. If they don't get the whistle blown in time......then, oh well...you should have said "time out" sooner.

The best part was Urban Meyer was standing there with the ref with his hand like on his shoulder"okay now" he said! He paid they lost,chomp that!

 

[Best Buckeye]

Bull doodie. Calling time out has been happening since God made dirt and even back when I played we called it. JT has even done it.
Kickers are expected to do what they do, Kick. If they can't do it bring on another one and stop the whining.

 

[elliemae]

Bull doodie. Calling time out has been happening since God made dirt and even back when I played we called it. JT has even done it.
Kickers are expected to do what they do, Kick. If they can't do it bring on another one and stop the whining.

Oh! Bite me!

 

[Best Buckeye]

Oh! Bite me!

:chompy:

 

[stxbuck]

Two weeks in a row we've had coaches stand right next to the ref and call a time out on such short notice that play can't be stopped. It may be effective... it's batting 500 as I write... but it's an invitation to disaster.

You want to ice the kicker? Fine. But let's not allow it to go to this extreme. Stop it before someone gets hurt or a situation arises that gets out of hand...

It's a part of the trend to take responsibility and control out of the hands of the players and put it in the hands of the coach. I thought one of the major lessons that sports were to teach was that a player had to remain calm and under control in order to think in such situations.

I said the same thing in the Auburn-Florida thread, and the ESPN talking heads agree-they made the Auburn double FG the Play of the Week, and Holtz and Co. all agreed that a rule change should be made.

 

[Best Buckeye]

Since when do we care what the talking heads say? they are just stirring the pot. let them kick it.

 

[jlb1705]

You're right, they have been icing the kicker since the dawn of football. What has been happening the last few weeks in college and the pros has not been happening since then though. This rules are being exploited as a strategy to make a kicker do something twice, and I don't think it's fair.

I think the appropriate solution is to not allow timeouts to be called once the linemen are set on kicking plays. If you want to call a timeout to ice the kicker before that, fine. That aspect of it has been going on forever.

 

[elliemae]

:chompy:

That did not hurt at all!

 

[cincibuck]

Clearly the issue is NOT that you can't call a time out to ice the kicker. That's accepted practice for some time. It is first, giving the coach, not the captains, the right to call a time out and second, allowing them to wait until the play can't be stopped to call it.

I suppose it will stop when a kicker blows the first kick and makes the second, but it is inviting disaster... for example, a blocked kick and an onsuing play in which someone is injured, fans rushing onto the field, etc.

 

[buckeyefool]

I think the appropriate solution is to not allow timeouts to be called once the linemen are set on kicking plays. If you want to call a timeout to ice the kicker before that, fine. That aspect of it has been going on forever.

Okay question using this example. You're on defense, the team lines up and is getting ready to kick, all the sudden you see, oh shit we only have 10 guys out there. Should the defense not be allowed to call a time out?

The kickers job is to kick the ball, no matter how many times in a row he has to do it. Hell, you have 3 timeouts left, do it to the guy three times. It's within the rules so you use it. period.

 

[jlb1705]

Okay question using this example. You're on defense, the team lines up and is getting ready to kick, all the sudden you see, oh shit we only have 10 guys out there. Should the defense not be allowed to call a time out?

The kickers job is to kick the ball, no matter how many times in a row he has to do it. Hell, you have 3 timeouts left, do it to the guy three times. It's within the rules so you use it. period.

The kicker's job is to kick the ball and the other team's job is to put eleven guys on the field.

"Because it's within the rules now" is not a good enough reason to me to not make a change.

 

[buckeyefool]

The kicker's job is to kick the ball and the other team's job is to put eleven guys on the field.

"Because it's within the rules now" is not a good enough reason to me to not make a change.

You are right it is their job to get 11 on the field, and they have every right to call a time out before the snap, even if it is a split second before the snap, for what ever reason they want to.