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C Dallas Lauderdale (Maine Red Claws - NBA G-League)

I wonder if Dallas Lauderdale will make 'Guinness Book of Records' if he plays behind 4 First Round (or Lottery) picks, assuming that Mullins and then Sullinger makes it. Additionally, if Sullinger goes after year one.

Oden, Koufos, now Mullin and maybe (?) Sullinger going pro after their freshman year, first rounders, etc.

Meanwhile, Dallas just chugs along, and gets better each year. A great finale to this story would be that OSU gets to the Final Four, and Dallas has a bang-up tournament, and then HE gets selected in the first round, after playing behind, or with four one-n-doners. Now, I know that Sullinger isn't a true C like the other three, but just thinkin'.......

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calibuck;1450470; said:
Oden, Koufos, now Mullin and maybe (?) Sullinger going pro after their freshman year, first rounders, etc.

:gobucks3::gobucks4::banger:

Oden was the year before Dallas, Dallas came in with KK, good point though, who knows, next year Big Z may blow up and leave early :( and get drafted in the 1st, then if it happened again, Sullinger (not sure his game translates, unless he grows a bit more, into his feet for example, that he is a one and done type player, but Kevin Love was with a similar body type) would make it 4, though hopefully the NBA has the 2 year rule in place by then.
 
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Another point you might want to remember about Sullinger is that he might not leave, or might not be able to leave, depending upon the new CBA that the NBA has to negotiate for the 2010 season. There will be interesting to see with a new assistant coach working with the post players if Dallas does something different next year. All I hope is that he works on his free-throw shooting now until the beginning of next season.
 
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I'm also not sure that I'd say that Dallas played "behind" Mullins, especially when he was the starter and Mullins came off the bench. :wink:

Next year, the starting C job is almost certainly his, and I'd be very surprised if the following year that Sullinger came in and started at C over Lauderdale as a senior.
 
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LitlBuck;1451226; said:
I really can't see Dallas playing the 4. Maybe Jared but not Dallas unless he drastically improves his game 5' from the basket:)

Agreed, Jared could play some 4, he will probably need a bit better quicks to defend real well from there IMO, but he has the offensive game to play there, can handle a bit as well as has decent touch on his jumper. Dallas has work to do in order to try his hand at the 4.
 
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Don't we still have Kyle Madsen back for one more year, and the 7 footer (Kocic?) that transferred from whereever that broke his foot (?) in his first game. Won't either of those play the 4 before Sullinger? I don't see the urgency in pushing Sullinger to play that quickly, sure get him some exposure and some minutes, but not make him a mainstay (unless he tears it up in practice and deserves to start), unless he earns it.

Matta seems to like to play his one big and four small quite a lot. In the Dance it appears that didn't work all that well for teams were balanced with a real 4 instead of a big 3. NC seemed to play a traditional set and clobbered MSU with it. Any thoughts?

I'd still like to see Mr. Lauderdale continue to grow into his game. Saw flashes of brilliance, and then he disappeared. He doesn't appear to have the inside offensive moves when he's manned up, but can flush the ball when his man shifts. Anyone see any mid-range jumpers from Big D? Why not put Dallas at the 4 and let him hang around the basket, and play the new guy at the 5?

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KM will not overlap Sullinger. KM has 1 year left 2009-2010 only.

I think that all 3 of Dallas, Z, and Sullinger are all 5s/Cs. I don't know that any of them would be able to play the 4 - particularly the TM 4 where he likes them to play outside a lot. Lighty, ET, Thomas and Kecman are likely to man the 4 for the next couple years still.

Dallas will start again this coming season BY DEFAULT because we have no other real options. But he may well be relegated to a backup role as a SR because Sullinger is a load at both ends and Dallas has way more holes in his game. Now if he develops GREATLY over the next year then it might be more of a contest. But his offense is anemic and he is so shot block happy his D isn't that great and his rebounding suffers from it. He needs to pick it up a lot!

calibuck;1452116; said:
Don't we still have Kyle Madsen back for one more year, and the 7 footer (Kocic?) that transferred from whereever that broke his foot (?) in his first game. Won't either of those play the 4 before Sullinger? I don't see the urgency in pushing Sullinger to play that quickly, sure get him some exposure and some minutes, but not make him a mainstay (unless he tears it up in practice and deserves to start), unless he earns it.

Matta seems to like to play his one big and four small quite a lot. In the Dance it appears that didn't work all that well for teams were balanced with a real 4 instead of a big 3. NC seemed to play a traditional set and clobbered MSU with it. Any thoughts?

I'd still like to see Mr. Lauderdale continue to grow into his game. Saw flashes of brilliance, and then he disappeared. He doesn't appear to have the inside offensive moves when he's manned up, but can flush the ball when his man shifts. Anyone see any mid-range jumpers from Big D? Why not put Dallas at the 4 and let him hang around the basket, and play the new guy at the 5?

:gobucks3::gobucks4::banger:
 
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buckeydoptimist;1452228; said:
KM will not overlap Sullinger. KM has 1 year left 2009-2010 only.

I think that all 3 of Dallas, Z, and Sullinger are all 5s/Cs. I don't know that any of them would be able to play the 4 - particularly the TM 4 where he likes them to play outside a lot. Lighty, ET, Thomas and Kecman are likely to man the 4 for the next couple years still.

Dallas will start again this coming season BY DEFAULT because we have no other real options. But he may well be relegated to a backup role as a SR because Sullinger is a load at both ends and Dallas has way more holes in his game. Now if he develops GREATLY over the next year then it might be more of a contest. But his offense is anemic and he is so shot block happy his D isn't that great and his rebounding suffers from it. He needs to pick it up a lot!

I don't see Sullinger as a college 5 yet. Maybe that will change but from watching him I see him as a dynamic 4 who can dominate inside.
 
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Top NBA Draft Prospects in the Big Ten, Part Two (#6-10)

by: Jonathan Givony - President, Matt Kamalsky, Kyle Nelson, Joey Whelan
August 31, 2009


#8 Dallas Lauderdale, 6-8, Junior, Power Forward/Center, Ohio State, 4.7 points, 6.8 rebounds, 0.4 assists, 1.3 turnovers, 2.0 blocks, 71.8% FG, 45.8% FT

Kyle Nelson

Dallas Lauderdale is a relative unknown in scouting circles, though, he was a starter for most of last season and was considered to be the defensive anchor for the 22-11 Ohio State Buckeyes. He has backed up Kosta Koufos and shared time with B.J. Mullens during their brief stays in Columbus and, despite seeing his minutes nearly quadruple last season, still commands just 7.1% of his team?s offensive possessions. With Mullens now fighting for minutes as a member of the Oklahoma City Thunder, Dallas Lauderdale has a tremendous opportunity this season to prove himself in an even bigger role this season.

Standing just 6?8, Lauderdale is undersized for a power forward, let alone a center, at the next level. He compensates for his lack of height, however, with a gigantic wingspan that is reputed to be over 7?6, and an incredibly strong 255-pound frame. While Lauderdale runs the floor well, he is just an average athlete, lacking the lateral quickness and agility to stay with perimeter oriented big men and the lift to play consistently above the rim.

His offensive game improved last season, but he is still very raw and has a lot of work to do to convince scouts that he will be able to contribute at the next level. He is still very limited in the post, but his footwork is developing and he has incorporated some nice, albeit simple, moves into his repertoire. He has a good, soft touch inside and though most of his offense consists of catch-and-dunks and put-backs, he definitely could add a reliable jump hook or baby hook in the next year. He lacks counter-moves, though, which is not only symbolic of his need to become more comfortable using his left hand, but also results in him being foul prone and turnover prone when he tries to do too much.

Outside of the post, he is still extremely awkward, although he does move much better without the ball, and, considering his size and flashes he showed throughout last season, he could develop into a reliable finisher on pick-and-roll opportunities.

On the defensive end, he is a mixed bag, primarily because he is a center in a power forward?s body. His wingspan and good timing allow him to be a good shot blocker on the collegiate level, as does his above average quickness in the post. He alters many shots, as well, and is an intimidating presence in the post. That said, he oftentimes compromises his defensive positioning looking for shots to block and while recovering, commits unnecessary fouls.

Even more concerning is the fact that he is not nearly as active as he could be on the defensive end. This is evident while looking at his rebounding ability. For a player with his physical advantage at the collegiate level, 7.2 rebounds per 40 minutes pace adjusted is simply not good enough. Last year, he grabbed just 3.6 rebounds per 21.5 minutes and most of those rebounds are in his immediate vicinity. Increasing his defensive intensity would increase his stock in scouts? eyes, not to mention solidify his playing time and impact in the Ohio State frontcourt.

With questions about his size and position, not to mention how raw he is on both ends of the floor, Lauderdale is anything but a sure-fire NBA prospect at this point. He has reportedly working very hard this off-season, though, and may still be able to make significant strides on his all-around game. His combination of length, strength, and shot blocking ability are nearly unrivaled at the collegiate level and if the rest of his game continues to develop, scouts will certainly take notice.

DraftExpress: Top NBA Draft Prospects in the Big Ten, Part Two (#6-10)
 
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MaxBuck;1526357; said:
3.6 rebounds in 21.5 minutes translates to 6.8 rebounds per 40 minutes.

In think it equates to 6.7 actually, but that is not relevant since the other numbers stated are his actual averages for the 21+ minutes ( not extrapolated out to what he'd have averaged in 40 ) so it makes no sense.

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