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Buckeyes in the draft/NFL Combine

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Buckeyeskickbuttocks;1063442; said:
Muffler can surely fight his own battles, but I have to say any GM that would look at one game, whether it's team result or individual performance, and conclude anything would not hang on to their job very long.

Troy "fell" to the 3rd because he's not the prototypical NFL QB size and didn't exactly come to the combines in tip top shape. All this said, I do believe they put too much emphasis on crap like 40 times, but to say that a single bowl game determines draft status is naive at best. And, if it's true, I need to be a GM somewhere, cause I'm all but certain I can do better than that by considering a prospects entire career, etc..
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The Falcons are looking for a GM. :wink2:

(it's good to know I'm not the only one who felt this way, gracias)
 
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osugrad21;1063425; said:
ESPN

Buckeyes' Robiskie, Jenkins coming back; Gholston entering NFL draft

ESPN.com news services




Updated: January 11, 2008, 5:23 PM ET

COLUMBUS, Ohio -- If Ohio State is to make a run for a third-straight appearance in the BCS championship game next season, some familiar stars will be there to help the cause.


Who's decided to leave college before their senior season to enter the NFL draft? Here's the list.


Brian Robiskie, the Buckeyes' top receiver, and star cornerback Malcom Jenkins will both return for their senior seasons. Jenkins' decision to return was reported by ESPN's Joe Schad.
However, the Buckeyes will lose defensive end Vernon Gholston, who told Schad he will enter the NFL draft. Additionally, Jenkins said linebacker James Laurinaitis and linebacker Marcus Freeman are torn about returning to Ohio State or entering the NFL draft, Schad reported.



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CNN/SI has not put any tOSU players on their 'early entries' list.

Just saying.

Personally after the B(s)CS game I thought Jenkins would be off to the draft. I really think for his sake he should go, for fans sake - STAY MOFO, STAY!
 
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LitlBuck;1063238; said:
There is something that I have never seen in print and don't completely understand.

When a junior wants to be "evaluated" for the draft and let's say that the word comes back that he would be a top 10 pick. How do they really know that? A team might say that they would take him with their pick but this is only January and a lot of things can happen before the end of April such as trades, guys retiring, etc.. Also, the junior might not work out well at the combine and then his stock would fall possibly even into the second round. I guess I am just curious as to how a team in late December can definitely say they are going to take a certain player before he is even worked out or their team isn't completely finalized.

I would think that if someone did not guarantee me something I would not take the chance of leaving college early. I just think your stock as a player becomes more defined when you are a senior.
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They gather a group of NFL scouts, GMs, etc, and then review film and rank all of the players (seniors and juniors who sent in paperwork) to see where they rank respectively at their position. They then look at these rankings and say that a player would fall somewhere, like upper first round, possible first round, second round, etc. They don't give the players back a piece of paper saying they will be drafted with the number 17 pick in the second round. They say you would be expected to go mid-to-late second round.
 
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Blade

Article published Sunday, January 13, 2008
To go or stay, that is the question at Ohio State, Michigan

By MATT MARKEY
BLADE SPORTS WRITER

COLUMBUS - This is not a typical predicament faced by college students. It does not involve unpaid parking tickets, an incomplete assignment in English Literature class or the impact of a steady diet of pizza, mac'n cheese and draft beer on the waist and thighs. This is a hundred-against-one tug of war where the one usually emerges victorious. Over here on this side there are those images of girls in bikini tops roller skating across campus in May. Over here you walk into a restaurant and the patrons all cheer. They want your autograph. They want a picture with you.

Over here 100,000 people will paint their faces, wear ridiculous frizzy red wigs and endure four hours in the sticky heat of the last Saturday in August just to watch you play. The same folks will envelope themselves in goose-down and Gore-Tex and cheer for you through the cold and rain on a late November weekend. Over here you are godlike, you are the chosen, you are a Buckeye. And over there is just this big pile of money.

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A good thing you do with these articles, Grad, is relieve me of the chore of going outside for the newspaper. I can read everything I want to from the Blade right here (Sports)
Thanks
 
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Buckeyeskickbuttocks;1063442; said:
Muffler can surely fight his own battles, but I have to say any GM that would look at one game, whether it's team result or individual performance, and conclude anything would not hang on to their job very long.

Troy "fell" to the 3rd because he's not the prototypical NFL QB size and didn't exactly come to the combines in tip top shape. All this said, I do believe they put too much emphasis on crap like 40 times, but to say that a single bowl game determines draft status is naive at best. And, if it's true, I need to be a GM somewhere, cause I'm all but certain I can do better than that by considering a prospects entire career, etc..
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Maybe...but why did he fall to the 5th? :tongue2:
 
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Best Buckeye;1064597; said:
A good thing you do with these articles, Grad, is relieve me of the chore of going outside for the newspaper. I can read everything I want to from the Blade right here (Sports)
Thanks
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I would just like to echo your sentiments not only to Grad but also to Junkie for posting all of those links. I know it saves me a lot of time and I am sure it saves a lot of time for other members of the Planet. My thanks as well to both of you guys. I would rep both Grad and Junkie but how many leafs can two guys have:)

I would also like to give thanks to all of the guys who do all of the on-site reporting.
 
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Dispatch

NFL: Three Buckeyes scheduled to work out at combine

Tuesday, February 19, 2008 6:34 AM




Three former Ohio State football players will be among the prospects undergoing tests and drills at the NFL Combine this week and next in Indianapolis.

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Canton

Kirk Barton, Shawn Crable will represent Stark County at NFL Combine
Wednesday, February 20, 2008
BY Steve Doerschuk
REPOSITORY SPORTS WRITER

Is he a budding NFL playmaker, indicated by his school-record 28 1\/2 tackles for loss as a Michigan senior?

Or is he a risky prospect with skinny legs?

Will the real Shawn Crable please stand up?

Such questions converge as the NFL Scouting Combine begins in earnest today in Indianapolis.

Among the 330 draft-eligible invitees, Crable (Massillon, Michigan) and Kirk Barton (Perry, Ohio State) are the only two who played high school football in Stark County

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So far, it looks like offensive and defensive linemen will dominate the top 10 picks. The wrangling over LSU's Glenn Dorsey, Virginia's Chris Long (son of Howie), Michigan's Jake Long (not Howie's son), USC's Sedrick Ellis and Ohio State's Vernon Gholston will start in the next few days
 
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Dispatch

Combine buzz

Friday, February 22, 2008 3:04 AM



Major buzz

The hot topic remained the never-ending "Spygate" saga involving the New England Patriots. The NFL's competition committee had the first in a series of meetings to discuss the incident and how to prevent it in the future. According to the committee, which included Baltimore Ravens general manager Ozzie Newsome and Tennessee Titans coach Jeff Fisher, the situation has been handled sufficiently.



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Dispatch

NFL scouting combine: Players can expect a thorough check
Medical exams, interviews take on greater importance
Friday, February 22, 2008 3:04 AM
By Scott Priestle


THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH




INDIANAPOLIS -- Shane Longest was a kicker, punter and baseball closer at tiny Saint Xavier in Chicago, which he compared to being a multisport star in high school: Everybody on campus knows his name, but only a small group of family and friends have seen him play. So he was eager to spend time with NFL coaches and general managers this weekend. "I'm having the time of my life," Longest said yesterday during the first full day of the weeklong NFL scouting combine. "Even the medical exam was fun."
Few of his fellow players shared that enthusiasm for their physicals, but all were aware of the opportunity at hand. After productive careers as college players, they have another chance to impress NFL teams, this time up close.



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Some NFL mock drafts have Ohio State defensive end Vernon Gholston going to the Cincinnati Bengals with the No. 9 pick.
Rivals.com said "the Bengals defense gives up too many big plays and needs a force off the edge." DraftKing.com cited the team's "disaster of a season and their problems were directly connected with the team's inability to stop the run." Justin Smith's pending free agency also figured in some of the projections.
But if other sites are correct, the Bengals might not get a chance to draft Gholston. He also has been projected going to the New York Jets at No. 6 or a pick later to New England, where he would be converted to outside linebacker. The logic?
"It sounds like there is a very good chance that both Tedy Bruschi and Junior Seau will retire," NFLDraftCountdown.com reported. If that's the case, Mike Vrabel, Rosie Colvin and Adalius Thomas could move inside, opening a spot for Gholston, "a physical marvel and fantastic pass rusher."
 
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While Ohio State linebacker Larry Grant tries to impress scouts at the NFL combine this weekend, neither Gholston nor former OSU offensive tackle Kirk Barton expects to alter his draft expectations.
Barton left the Senior Bowl early because of a minor knee injury, and NFL scouts likely will take that into account at the workouts and will still consider him a middle-round selection.
If he goes in that range, Barton would join a large fraternity of middle- to late-round OSU line draftees. Since Orlando Pace was selected as the No. 1 pick in 1997, only center Nick Mangold, in 2006, has been picked in the first round. LeCharles Bentley was a second-round pick in 2002, but the majority of Ohio State's other offensive line prospects were taken between the fourth and seventh rounds.
 
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