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Buckeyes 93, Hoosiers 81 (Final)

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OHSportsFan9;1395919; said:
What I like:
Scoring more points than the other team
Scoring 93 points
Buford, Diebler, and Turner playing a phenomenal offensive game. Simmons too- 17 and 8 assists!
Having 3 guys with 20+ points and Simmons close with 18.
Shooting 63% from the floor and 25-30 on free throws.
4-pt plays.
IU fans started chanting "Throw a chair! Throw a chair!" during a sequence of what they saw as bad calls. :lol:

What I don't like:
No contribution from the bigs.
First half turnovers. Evan is so lazy with passes sometimes. Also, the execution on fast breaks has been bad.
Only 4 guys recording points, until late in the game when PJ went to the FT line and hit a couple.
Allowing 81 points.
Roth just going bonkers from 3-pt land. IU as a team was 13-21 from three at one point. Seems like this happens a lot against OSU.

A good win for the Buckeyes on the road. They played tough, kept their heads, and put up more points than the other team. :)

GO Bucks!
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crazybuckfan40;1396089; said:
I am with you...It looked like Mullens was sleep walking in this game, and forcing when he did touch the ball...Bad game for him...

I don't know what to do about these damn three balls other teams are hitting...It is always one guy...When one gets hot you have to find him at all times...If they hit as a team, fine...They would do the same against man, but one guy to have 8 is crazy...I mean the last couple were from nowhere land, but still gotta lock him up...

My biggest beef other than the defense and turnovers, is why no Walter Offut...It just seems to me and it was the same situation last year with Wallace and Lauderdale, that he could see the court more than he is...I mean he would be the best player for Indiana if he were a Hoosier, I don't think he is going to hurt much being on the floor...We are going to run Turner, Buford, Diebler out of gas...I am not sure when Matta is going to realize this...He did it with Butler last year, and Foster a couple years ago...
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Agree with both of what you guys have said. While Turner and a great game scoring and rebounding, he also had 7 turnovers which is way too many for a guy who handles the ball as much as him. You might as well deduct the turnovers from his rebounds because essentially that is what it adds up to.

I would add one more thing than I do not like. We are wasting way too many opportunities when we have breakout situations. We did it against Michigan and we did it again against Indiana. This team can not afford wasting easy opportunities.

I saw Indiana play Northwestern and Roth almost won the game for Indiana with his outside shooting. You let him stand still and he will knock them down one after another. Ohio State really needs to anticipate more with a guy like that or make him move. Diebler's three-point shots were much for impressive because he was not standing still when he hit the majority of his.

I have no idea what they're doing with Offutt. I mean if you're not going to play the kid in his home state for at least a couple minutes why didn't they redshirt him. This move totally baffles me.
 
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LitlBuck;1396270; said:
Agree with both of what you guys have said. While Turner and a great game scoring and rebounding, he also had 7 turnovers which is way too many for a guy who handles the ball as much as him. You might as well deduct the turnovers from his rebounds because essentially that is what it adds up to.

I would add one more thing than I do not like. We are wasting way too many opportunities when we have breakout situations. We did it against Michigan and we did it again against Indiana. This team can not afford wasting easy opportunities.

I saw Indiana play Northwestern and Roth almost won the game for Indiana with his outside shooting. You let him stand still and he will knock them down one after another. Ohio State really needs to anticipate more with a guy like that or make him move. Diebler's three-point shots were much for impressive because he was not standing still when he hit the majority of his.

I have no idea what they're doing with Offutt. I mean if you're not going to play the kid in his home state for at least a couple minutes why didn't they redshirt him. This move totally baffles me.
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I am with you on Turner...And the turnovers in the open court...I mentioned turnovers in my post, but really turnovers come from these two situations or when Diebler seems to be one step ahead of someone and they don't read where he is passing too...

I almost would like to see us run a little more, because when we do we look totally out of sync, don't fill lanes correctly, take wrong angles, make passes too late, too early...The only one that looked half way decent was the bounce pass from PJ to Buford, but he ended up throwing it too late which allowed the defender to get an angle and block Buford's shot...
 
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crazybuckfan40;1396089; said:
I am with you...It looked like Mullens was sleep walking in this game, and forcing when he did touch the ball...Bad game for him...

I don't know what to do about these damn three balls other teams are hitting...It is always one guy...When one gets hot you have to find him at all times...If they hit as a team, fine...They would do the same against man, but one guy to have 8 is crazy...I mean the last couple were from nowhere land, but still gotta lock him up...

My biggest beef other than the defense and turnovers, is why no Walter Offut...It just seems to me and it was the same situation last year with Wallace and Lauderdale, that he could see the court more than he is...I mean he would be the best player for Indiana if he were a Hoosier, I don't think he is going to hurt much being on the floor...We are going to run Turner, Buford, Diebler out of gas...I am not sure when Matta is going to realize this...He did it with Butler last year, and Foster a couple years ago...
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schwab;1396107; said:
What would I do if I was Tom Crean?

[strike]Recruit[/strike]
[strike]Scheme[/strike]
[strike]Hack-a-Center[/strike]
let Matt Roth shoot
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LitlBuck;1396270; said:
Agree with both of what you guys have said. While Turner and a great game scoring and rebounding, he also had 7 turnovers which is way too many for a guy who handles the ball as much as him. You might as well deduct the turnovers from his rebounds because essentially that is what it adds up to.

I would add one more thing than I do not like. We are wasting way too many opportunities when we have breakout situations. We did it against Michigan and we did it again against Indiana. This team can not afford wasting easy opportunities.

I saw Indiana play Northwestern and Roth almost won the game for Indiana with his outside shooting. You let him stand still and he will knock them down one after another. Ohio State really needs to anticipate more with a guy like that or make him move. Diebler's three-point shots were much for impressive because he was not standing still when he hit the majority of his.

I have no idea what they're doing with Offutt. I mean if you're not going to play the kid in his home state for at least a couple minutes why didn't they redshirt him. This move totally baffles me.
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The thing with Matt Roth is that he is probably the slowest guy on the court. He runs really weird, he's got kind of a hunch to him. Also, for all the points he was getting- he probably gave some back on the defensive side by having to chase Diebler around, which we saw led to Diebler having a hell of a game. Good screens by the team helped as well, but Roth was too slow to guard Diebler. IU tried to run a box-and-1 on Jon a couple times throughout the game. Thought that was interesting, first time that Jon's had that treatment, I think. Should open things up if other teams try that.

IU simply could not stop Diebler, Turner, or Buford. No one on their team could guard them one-v-one, especially once Pritchard had to guard Evan with 4 fouls.

I agree with the fast breaks- we have the athletes, but mess up too many times. So many wasted points off turnovers.

I would have loved to have seen Walter play. cbf40 is completely right in saying he'd be the best player on IU's team (well, him and Pritchard), so there's no reason he couldn't have stole some minutes yesterday. Could be a waste of his redshirt as you said Litl. Trust the coaches, I guess?
 
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bkochmc;1395843; said:
Turner - 21
Diebler - 18
Buford - 17
Simmons - 13
Everyone else - 0

I don't know the last time I saw only 4 scorers for a team this deep in the game.
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Butler had only 5 players score against OSU earlier this season....and two of them only had 1 point each.

crazybuckfan40;1396089; said:
I don't know what to do about these damn three balls other teams are hitting...It is always one guy...When one gets hot you have to find him at all times...If they hit as a team, fine...They would do the same against man, but one guy to have 8 is crazy...I mean the last couple were from nowhere land, but still gotta lock him up..
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And you know they are capable of it. Look at what the did to McAlarney for ND. They game-planned to take him out of the game and did it. Where has that perimeter defense been in some of these other games?
 
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Bucky Katt;1396961; said:
Butler had only 5 players score against OSU earlier this season....and two of them only had 1 point each.



And you know they are capable of it. Look at what the did to McAlarney for ND. They game-planned to take him out of the game and did it. Where has that perimeter defense been in some of these other games?
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Stuck in Lighty's cast I suppose - I think we are starting to appreciate what he did for this team that may not have been obvious when he was doing it.
 
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briegg;1397004; said:
Stuck in Lighty's cast I suppose - I think we are starting to appreciate what he did for this team that may not have been obvious when he was doing it.
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I don't know how you think the return of Lighty (if that indeed happens this season) is going to improve our perimeter defense. I think his forte was helping us on the press and his rebounding. Also, when David is in the game he cannot stroke the 3 ball like Buford or JD. Maybe he will help with his communication when he gets back so that we do a better job on the perimeter shooters. I just don't know how you let a standstill shooter get that good of a look in any defense no matter who is playing.

We are also coming into a stretch where we will begin to play other teams that have very good outsize shooters so hopefully Matta can get this zone defense straightened out before it is too late.
 
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crazybuckfan40 said:
I am with you...It looked like Mullens was sleep walking in this game, and forcing when he did touch the ball...Bad game for him...

I don't know what to do about these damn three balls other teams are hitting...It is always one guy...When one gets hot you have to find him at all times...If they hit as a team, fine...They would do the same against man, but one guy to have 8 is crazy...I mean the last couple were from nowhere land, but still gotta lock him up...

My biggest beef other than the defense and turnovers, is why no Walter Offut...It just seems to me and it was the same situation last year with Wallace and Lauderdale, that he could see the court more than he is...I mean he would be the best player for Indiana if he were a Hoosier, I don't think he is going to hurt much being on the floor...We are going to run Turner, Buford, Diebler out of gas...I am not sure when Matta is going to realize this...He did it with Butler last year, and Foster a couple years ago...
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how many times did mullens touch the ball within the offense? twice? once?
 
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One part of this game that I noticed was the fact that we did score in the 90's. That didn't happen too many times this year even against some teams that we should/could have scored on. I look at that as a lesson to the kids that they can do it. Once they see that then they will duplicate it (hoping )
 
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