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by the way, CJ Mosley, Antajj Hawthorne, Jovan Haye, and DT - Ellison (can't remember how to spell his first name) are still available. I wouldn't be surprised to see the Browns package a couple of picks to trade up for one them...Haye or Mosley would be my preference.
 
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While I hate the thought of a scUM player being one of the centerpieces of my team, if he is as good as he could be, I could get past his alma mater. The Pool pick kinda caught me off guard but after reading up on him and watching some video, a combination of him and Jones could be a pretty nice foundation in the defensive backfield. The kid absolutely flies to the ball. And lastly, Frye is who I wanted all day. He has a ton of potential and MAC QB's are becoming pretty hot commodities. Plus you gotta love this quote from his scouting report-"While junior quarterbacks Aaron Rodgers and Alex Smith are more highly touted, I feel that in the long run, Frye will come closest to being a Brett Favre clone than any other passer in this draft. ":biggrin2:

As an aside, how horrible is ESPiN's draft coverage? I couldn't take anymore after our 2nd round pick. They literally talk garbage throughout the entire draft. Whatever happened to talking about or showing highlights of the player just drafted? Guess I should have expected crap from these jagoffs.
 
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NFBuck said:
This is a very strange feeling. I am actually quite happy with our day 1 picks. Now we just need to fill a few holes tomorrow and this class shows more promise than any of our drafts since the rebirth.
I have to agree. I'm changing my tune, with the guys they got, I'm very pleased. Our drafts have so bad, we have only sent a punter to the Pro Bowl
since the Browns returned to the NFL in 1999.
 
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Browns Draft Grades

3. Braylon Edwards A
Not an incredible position of need but he'll come in and with Winslow and Bryant they will form a potent trio

34. Brodney Pool A-
Pick would be an A but safety wasn't a huge need and Khalif Barnes was on the board. But Pool is dubbed a future Pro Bowl Safety

67. Charlie Frye A+
Hometown kid... Position of Need.. plus a great value at this pick... Comparable to Big Ben Rothelisberger another MAC QB
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Wants for Day 2
at 103. Antajj Hawthorne, Elton Brown, C.J. Mosley, Chris Canty

5th-7th BPA or Best OLineman or Front Seven man available.. Fifth i wouldn't mind seein Jonathon Goddard
 
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I want them to draft either defensive line or offensive line. We need to get some depth there. Hawthorne(speeling) for defense or munoz or brown for oline.

I heard that they are going to trade either Mcnown or Harris on sunday. Probably for more draft picks.
 
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Browns select Perkins from Oklahoma. I thought they would go after offensive or defensive line. I really don't know where this selection is going. Perkins is a really good punt returner. I thought that is why we had northcutt. I hope savege and crennel know what they are doing.
 
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Perkins was an interesting pick. I wonder if he will be used solely as a punt returner or as a CB as well. Im not disappointed in the pick I just would have rather had a DL or OL.. but thats why we hired Savage and he's second to no one in evaluating talent..So I am happy.
 
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If Hawthorne or Goddard are available in the 5th round, the Brownies should jump on it. Would've liked to see more OL's, but at this point I'm not sure if any of the tackles are worth it.

if the Big Earn is still available in the 5th, the Browns could bulk him up and turn him into a LB.
 
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well the browns just got another pick. They traded Luke Mcnown to Tampa Bay for a fifth round pick. I believe it is number 144. Good trade there was no way they were going to have 4 quarterbacks. I like the pick.

well now i just heard that it is a 6th round draft pick #203 for mcnown. This is from nfl.com and the 5th round is from clevelandbrowns.com. So i don't know what to go by.

The browns justed drafted david mcmillian from kansas. He is a tweener. defensive end outside linebacker. They say a fit for a 3-4 defense. I like this pick it adds depth and you know savege is awesome with draft picks.
 
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Just a question: Why not take Williams?

Edwards has been known to drop the ball quite a few times, Williams has much better hands and is amazing in the redzone. I don't buy the speed aguement, the five yard cushion will help williams in the NFL.

Just a thought.
 
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berniesinsiders.com

4/24/05

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</TD><TD noWrap width=3></TD><TD vAlign=top>No More Second Guessing ?
By David Carducci
Date: Apr 24, 2005

Go ahead. Second guess the selection of Braylon Edwards with the No. 3 overall pick of the 2005 NFL Draft.
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Question the decision to avoid filling a position of need by grabbing Brodney Pool in round two.

Don't fall for the sentimentality of keeping Charlie Frye in northeast Ohio with a third-round pick.

After all, nitpicking and gripping over a draft has developed into a favorite spring pastime for most Cleveland Browns fans.

Why should that change just because the team is under new management.

But even if you choose to disagree with every pick the Browns made on day one of the draft, Saturday had to be at least a little bit satisfying for every fan who was frustrated by the arrogance and lack of direction that stained the four-year Butch Davis regime.

For the first time in the new millennium, the new Browns seem to have a plan.

And even more amazing, their leadership appears to be willing to follow that plan.

Remember Davis's first draft in Cleveland? After working with his entire scouting staff to build a consensus to draft Richard Seymour with the third overall pick of 2001, Davis drove home, jumped into bed and dreamed of reasons to overrule that agreement.

He returned to Berea the next day and announced to a stunned war room that his Browns were going to take Gerard Warren. We all know how that turned out. Seymour is a four-time, Pro Bowl defensive tackle. Warren has been exiled to Denver with the rest of the Browns underachieving former defensive linemen.

All egos were checked at the War Room door this weekend. There were no power plays by a head coach hungry for control of every decision.

Instead, Romeo Crennel arrived for his first draft as a head coach eager to learn from Phil Savage - a first-year general manager who brought what he calls a "tried-and-true" blueprint for draft-day success from his last job in Baltimore.

For Crennel, this was his first opportunity to sit in on all pre-draft meetings, read scouting reports on both offensive and defensive players, and have his opinion sought after by front-office personnel. He wasn't about to abuse his new position.

He actually had a wide-eyed look Saturday afternoon when he called the selection of Edwards, "an educational experience."

For his part, Savage promised not to be tempted to compromise his theory of taking the best player available whenever possible. With Savage, there would be no "reach" for a player just because his ego needed to be massaged by chasing a hunch.

If for no other reason, Browns fans can enjoy this draft for the fact that their team is finally being managed by people who are willing to work together to implement a plan.

Whether or not that plan will work as well in Cleveland as it did in Baltimore is something for the future to judge. But for now, at least one pro scouting service thinks the Browns did pretty well Saturday with Savage's philosophy of drafting the best player available.

If you believe "Ourlads" 2005 rankings, the Browns landed the draft's best wide receiver in Edwards, best safety in Pool and best quarterback in Frye.

For a team that "isn't looking for home runs, just a few solid base hits," as Savage put it, that's not a bad start.
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</CENTER>I love the quote by savage about wanting some base hits and not homeruns at this point.

I like the draft for the Browns so far, a vast improvement from the past six years.:biggrin:
 
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Speegle is seen as a smart, gritty player. Not a good athlete though. He's got special teams written all over him could move into second string within a year or two. Looks like a Romeo pick cause he's a leader/team captain, he's smart, he'll do whatever you ask him to and he'll play through injuries. Captain of the top defense in the MWC. Played in the 3-4 there. Graduated with a 3.97 GPA and played his senior year while in graduate school. Known for his community service.

McMillian is gonna be a situational edge rusher. Great athlete. His technique is gonna need work. Very durable. Was a free safety in early HS before outgrowing the position. Great first step. Prototype edge rusher but lacks strength and can get pushed around easily. Has potential.
 
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BuckFanAtAkron said:
the browns selected nick speegle from new mexico. He is anothe tweener. He played in a 3-4 at new mexico. I am glad that they are adding depth but i wanted to get some depth on the offensive line.
Disagree with you here, he's been said to have 4.55 speed and played in the 3-4 at New Mexico, and we've picked up Andruzzi and Coleman in free agency. Also the main thing thats been hurting us as far as Oline is injuries, not lack of talent. I think Faine will thrive playing alongside Andruzzi and Coleman.

GoofyBuckeye said:
McMillian is gonna be a situational edge rusher. Great athlete. His technique is gonna need work. Very durable. Was a free safety in early HS before outgrowing the position. Great first step. Prototype edge rusher but lacks strength and can get pushed around easily. Has potential.
I loved this pick. We may have been able to get him a round later, but I say bulk him up and you got a player similar to Kearse
 
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