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Brady "XLLL" Hoke (Head Coach San Diego State)

MaxBuck;1958027; said:
though he's obviously capitalizing on Ohio State's troubles.

And that is the key. If LF continues the streak and he doesn't play Tressel-ball but plays Spurrier-ball and runs up the score on TSUN all will be back to normal. tOSU will own :oh::io: still and can go rape PA, GA, & FL for some talent that those schools overlook or think are too big for the SEC.
 
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Buckeye86;1958018; said:
Nice deflection, but what you said was that:



Ball State has had 15 head football coaches in their history, starting in 1924.

8 of those 15 head coaches had better records than Brady Hoke, including 7 of the last 9 coaches prior to Hoke being hired.

This includes such coaching legends as: John Magnabosco (68-46-14), George Serdula (14-9-1), Ray Louthen (37-13-3), Wave Myers (15-14), Dave McClain (46-25-3), Dwight Wallace (40-37), and Paul Schudel (60-48-4),

The only two coaches Hoke had a better record than in the last 76 years before he was hired was Jim Freeman (18-28-2) and Bill Lynch (37-53).

Dave McClain now there is a name from the past. A native of Ohio and died young (heartattack) when he was the coach at Whisky...He was an assistant under Woody and actually did a fine job at Whisky. His teams upset the Bucks a couple of times in the 80's.. Overall he was a pretty good coach....from wikipedia...

A native of Upper Sandusky, Ohio, McClain was a 1956 graduate of Upper Sandusky High School and a 1960 graduate of Bowling Green State University, where he played both quarterback and safety. As a basketball player for Upper Sandusky, McClain held the career-scoring record from 1956 through 1982 with 1079 points.
McClain started his coaching career at Crestline High School in Ohio with an 8?1 record and then returned to Bowling Green as a graduate assistant in 1961, where he served as freshmen offensive coach. He then served as an assistant coach at Cornell University under Tom Harp in 1962; at Miami University under Bo Schembechler, 1963?1966; at the University of Kansas under Pepper Rodgers, 1967?1968; and at Ohio State University under Woody Hayes in 1969?1970 before accepting the head coaching job at Ball State.
During his seven seasons at Ball State, McClain compiled a 46?25?3 (.642) record.[1] During his tenure, Ball State joined Division I and the Mid-American Conference (MAC). He was the MAC Coach of the Year in 1975.[2] The 1976, team captured the school's first MAC title in only its second year in the conference.
Following his successful run at Ball State, McClain was hired as the head football coach at the University of Wisconsin?Madison, where he served from 1978 to 1985. During his tenure he compiled a 46?42?3 (.522) record, including a 1?2 record in post-season bowl games. He led the Badgers to back to back seven-win seasons in 1981 and 1982. McClain was the first coach in Badger football history to win the first four games of his head coaching tenure at Wisconsin.[3] He also recorded Wisconsin football's first post-season bowl victory, a 14?3 win over the Kansas State Wildcats in the 1982 Independence Bowl.[4]
 
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Wingate1217;1958036; said:
Dave McClain now there is a name from the past. A native of Ohio and died young (heartattack) when he was the coach at Whisky...He was an assistant under Woody and actually did a fine job at Whisky. His teams upset the Bucks a couple of times in the 80's.. Overall he was a pretty good coach....from wikipedia...

A 'pretty good' coach who had 13 less losses than Hoke at Ball State while coaching in two more overall games.

I guess that goes back to that whole opinion thing again.

Okay, I'll drop it now.
 
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Buckeye86;1958038; said:
A 'pretty good' coach who had 13 less losses than Hoke at Ball State while coaching in two more overall games.

I guess that goes back to that whole opinion thing again.

What a "pretty good" coach is really above average. I would classify Woody, Paterno, Bryant et al as great. Hoke as average at best but that could change in the next couple of years. My take is that he will win 70% of his games because the talent level of Scum will now be better. Hard not to be better with the abortion RR left up there. If he knocks off some of the Big Boys with any sort of regularity (OSU, Whisky, Nebbie, ND, PSU) then the talent level will escalate and his record would reflect that influx of talent. Will he approach JT's stature?....No, but he would be at least serviceable.....But to Hell with that....here's to another 2800+ days without a Scum victory over OSU.....
 
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MaxBuck;1958009; said:
3. Regardless of Hoke's record against tOSU over the next 3-4 years, the Buckeyes will regain our dominance eventually.

4. Fuck Michigan.

On 3, I don't believe that Hoke's going to have success over tOSU the next 3-4 years. At worst, the Buckeyes will be .500 during that time. Even with this hiccup this year, I don't see any reason that the Buckeyes shouldn't continue to own this rivalry.

4. Agreed.
 
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muffler dragon;1958065; said:
... I don't believe that Hoke's going to have success over tOSU the next 3-4 years. At worst, the Buckeyes will be .500 during that time.
Well, based on recent results that would qualify as almost unbelievable success for the Skunkweasels. :lol:

Everyone needs to remember just how low the bar has been set for Michigan football, guys ...

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Wingate1217;1958036; said:
Dave McClain now there is a name from the past. A native of Ohio and died young (heartattack) when he was the coach at Whisky...He was an assistant under Woody and actually did a fine job at Whisky. His teams upset the Bucks a couple of times in the 80's.. Overall he was a pretty good coach...

There is a rumor that the B1G Coach of the Year Award is named after him, but people in Columbus are unable to confirm this.
 
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MaxBuck;1958135; said:
Well, based on recent results that would qualify as almost unbelievable success for the Skunkweasels. :lol:

Everyone needs to remember just how low the bar has been set for Michigan football, guys ...

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Exactly, you beat me to the point. 2-2 is WAY better than 0-4 and to many of the UM fans would be interpreted as "improvement" and heading in the right direction.
 
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MaxBuck;1958135; said:
Well, based on recent results that would qualify as almost unbelievable success for the Skunkweasels. :lol:

Everyone needs to remember just how low the bar has been set for Michigan football, guys ...

rich-rodriguez1.jpg

He took it down to the sea level.

Hell just 1 win would be success at this point.

Hoke might be fired in the next 3 or 4 years. I don't know. At least he is recruiting the right type of players. "If" he has 2 or 3 more recruiting classes like this year and with Morris on board, the next coach will step in with some talent. Unless of course the AD hires another spread offense and no defense coach. Then I might just play in some high speed traffic.
 
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BH is not being shy at Media Day...Very confident and making a definite effort to make his mark. He answered multiple questions with "Because we are Michigan"...even prefaced that once with, "This may sound arrogant and if so, that's ok..."
 
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osugrad21;1960670; said:
BH is not being shy at Media Day...Very confident and making a definite effort to make his mark. He answered multiple questions with "Because we are Michigan"...even prefaced that once with, "This may sound arrogant and if so, that's ok..."

Arrogance and a sense of entitlement on the football field may be enough to beat the average teams, but as I've been saying for months, there is a reason Michigan bombed in the biggest games even before Rodriguez got there.

When you think being Michigan and just showing up is all you need to do, when a team punches you in the mouth you fold like a baby.

Hoke is in for an even ruder awakening when he realizes Rodriguez didn't even leave him Michigan talent to carry that attitude.

Nothing cleanses your soul like getting the he'll kicked out of you, unless you're a Michigan man apparently, in which case you will be an arrogant asshole regardless of any other circumstances.
 
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Buckeye86;1960681; said:
Nothing cleanses your soul like getting the he'll kicked out of you, unless you're a Michigan man apparently, in which case you will be an arrogant asshole regardless of any other circumstances.

The Mi*ch*gan Man culture is based on the celebration of arrogance and treachery, two universally reviled character flaws anywhere else in the world.

They are not some gallant, worthwhile opponent to be admired. They are a force of evil to be loathed and opposed at every turn.
 
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