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Brady "XLLL" Hoke (Head Coach San Diego State)

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NFBuck said:
scUM shouldn't be competing with corn for a coach. I put corn in the same class as da U...two programs with a championship pedigree from a bygone era. I don't think either are anywhere near reclaiming their glory, and neither are as attractive jobs as they might appear on the surface. Da U is unwilling to pay for top shelf coaches, and has serious fan apathy. Nebraska isn't going to get back to where they were simply because things have changed dramatically since they were winning NCs. It's hard to recruit to Lincoln, Ne when kids these days were barely alive when you were last winning titles. Their entire perception of the Huskers is a 9 win team that can't get over the hump. They aren't going to be able to get borderline kids to excel in a system that they have perfected. I think corn's ceiling at this point is Wiscy-- win 9-10 games a year and occasionally make a run for the B1G championship.
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The Corn's glory years were divided into two parts. The first part, they would feast on a ridiculously weak Big 8 and then usually lose to Oklahoma or their bowl game. That's when Osborn tried to run a clean program. The second part, he said fuck it and started to bring in every thug, roidhead and rapist he could get to Lincoln, and they won championships. Without doing the latter and having a small in-state base, they are realistically what Pelini delivered. Question is will the new coach realize the inherent limitations of the program in this era and try and recreate the second Osborn era?
 
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ORD_Buckeye said:
The Corn's glory years were divided into two parts. The first part, they would feast on a ridiculously weak Big 8 and then usually lose to Oklahoma or their bowl game. That's when Osborn tried to run a clean program. The second part, he said fuck it and started to bring in every thug, roidhead and rapist he could get to Lincoln, and they won championships. Without doing the latter and having a small in-state base, they are realistically what Pelini delivered. Question is will the new coach realize the inherent limitations of the program in this era and try and recreate the second Osborn era?
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i don't think they mind winning nine or ten games and keeping it clean.

i think they REALLY mind getting blown TF out on national television while the coach goes on a tirade and screams at everyone from the assistants, to the players, to the student trainers, to the freaking water boy, then cusses out the fans and says "FUCK THEM" and challenges the administration by saying, "you want to fire me, then fire me."

he got his wish. i want to punch him in his enormous nose. he's a terrible representative of his alma mater.
 
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WolverineMike said:
Now they are talking about Hoke going out on recruiting visits tomorrow like it's business as usual. you can't tell me that is not detrimental if they are actually planning on getting rid of him. It just makes zero sense.
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Things are business as usual...

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cincibuck said:
Yeah but Cooper didn't leave his successor with an empty cupboard either. The heart of the 2003 Nat Champs were recruited by Coop.
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Rich Rod inherited 4 years of consecutive top 15 recruiting classes and he only had one class outside the top 10, his last. The cupboard defense was always absurd. Scum would be in decent shape if the administration hadn't decided to nuke the program... twice. If anyone is in danger of getting a bare cupboard, it's Hokes successor.
 
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Michigan absolutely needs to get their replacement lined up before firing Hoke to avoid the debacle of their last two coaching searches.

Hopefully their stupidity and arrogance lead them to waste all their time on Harbaugh and Miles instead of evaluating and negotiating with realistic options.

When both say no for the third time and they realize all the good options have already been locked up by less incompetent schools, they will be right fucked once again.

Edit: and at this point I wouldn't mind Miles at UM. He's old and crazy and would need to adjust to recruiting without the SEC bagman network advantage.
 
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WolverineMike said:
Now they are talking about Hoke going out on recruiting visits tomorrow like it's business as usual. you can't tell me that is not detrimental if they are actually planning on getting rid of him. It just makes zero sense.
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If nothing else, scUM has shown they are magnificent at making themselves into a national punch line. If your mind is made up, there is zero reason to not fire your lame-duck coach at the first opportunity. The longer this goes on, the greater the chance, in my IMO, that Hoke comes back next year. They may be trying to be sure they have somebody lined up before letting the fat man go to be spared the embarrassment their last two searches have been. They may also be realizing that Harbaugh is a serious longshot, and not overly impressed with any plan-b's that might be out there. They might be willing to punt this year, keep the fat man one more year, then roll the dice again next year when hopefully there are better candidates, and they don't have to fight with UF and Corn.

I said back in October they should go hard after McElwaine at CSU. Should have canned Hoke after the concussion-gate scandal and got in on McElwaine before UF. But that would take some forward thinking, something tsun has never shown they are willing to do.

Again, look at the contrasts between scUM and tOSU. In May 2011, Tressel resigns. They name an interim coach, and feelers are immediately put out to Urban Meyer (the clear "home run" hire) to gauge his interest. He responds positively, they get things done through back-channels, and he is named the new HC the Monday after The Game...essentially erasing the sting of the first loss in The Game in 8 years, and giving him 6 weeks to wrap up a recruiting class. THAT's how you do it.
 
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