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BP'ers get all nerdy about weather (split from Poll thread)

January 4 - high of 59, low of 36 (at midnight)
January 5 - high of 69, low of 51 (at midnight)
January 6 - high of 75, low of 55
January 7 - high of 74, low of 55
Game Day: January 8 - high of 78, low of 63

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didn’t look up the actual temps.
just going on memory of that week.
moving practices indoors, players and fans commenting on the cold.
 
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Yes it’s warmer. And much nicer place to host bowl games. Buckeyes are just fine playing in warm weather locations.

Plus, BBQ and brisket with some dry run.

None of that fucking Carolina sweet shit shit on my BBQ mmmkay?
The Buckeyes are more than fine playing when it's cold as nuts and snowing, too. Some schools aren't build to survive that weather, while Ohio State has to be...just in case.

Reminds me of TCU kicking Minnesota's ass in Texas in mid-September, and then our offense sputtering during a snow storm.....and having to hear dipshits say TCU didn't struggle with Minnesota.
 
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And you might step back a second and ponder why bowl games are historically played where they are played

I dont think anyone is confused on that point..

But it also conveniently ignores the fact that those were Exhibition games. The final polls came out before the bowl games.
Now it's a post season... not the Pro Bowl in Hawaii for kicks. So why should certain teams get permanent home field advantage in those games?
 
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I dont think anyone is confused on that point..

But it also conveniently ignores the fact that those were Exhibition games. The final polls came out before the bowl games.
Now it's a post season... not the Pro Bowl in Hawaii for kicks. So why should certain teams get permanent home field advantage in those games?
Unless we move to actual home games, it would be a tough draw. While I get that Buckeye fans would fill stadiums in shitty weather, that's not true of a lot of teams.
 
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Yes, the eager to travel northerners are willing to pony up and travel to the backyard of the other conference, who would probably not reciprocate in similar numbers even if weather were not a consideration.
Yeah, they never hold any big games in the heart of Midwest country.

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"why don't you invest your money in some new bowl that will be set for early January in some outdoor stadium in northern Indiana"

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So why should certain teams get permanent home field advantage in those games?

WOT AHEAD!! BLAME CLARITY!!

Well, this really is the meat of the discussion, although it's fun to poke each other about the ancillary issues. Kujirakira has narrowed the issue quite well.

So legit question to come. As someone said a few posts back, the B1G teams have to be able to play the end of the year games in shitty cold weather...as part of the poor decision making not to move south to warmer winters once the wheel was invented. (here, I paraphrase)

So what seems to be the crux of this question is the analysis of how much the cold weather preparedness - I dunno - detracts from your warm weather performance abilities.

I mean, if having the ability to smack each other in frozen combat in temperatures that disfavor the forward pass, what percentage of your overall team skills are you giving up by retaining cold weather capability? If that cripples your warm weather performance, then you have a point. If your ability to play in a place like the Rose Bowl is hurt by the fact that you have a structural need to ram into each other like Musk Ox in February, there must be some kind of way to articulate and measure that. Because if you are equally adept at both, then you are not in any way disadvantaged. And if you are not disadvantaged to any great extent, the lack of playing Southern teams in the north in winter in no way disadvantages you for ranking. To be sure, southern teams would not know what the hell to do in the cold, how to handle the ball, how to keep their feet and cut, and the list goes on.

So I know how to identify the disadvantage of the south/warm playing in the cold. I admit it. But how is the north disadvantaged by playing in the south by virtue of having to play a game or to in the cold? Punishing fullbacks do not work in the south when they run? Tell Nutria to break it to Jacob Hester. Road grader O-linemen do not work as well on grass in September as they do in late November/December? That did not seem to stop Nebraska back in the day in the warm bowls. C'mon guys - let me know the disadvantages of having a cold weather game skill set, at least insofar as it hurts your warm weather game skill set. Tell me why Ted Ginn is not as fast in September because you have some bad ass fullback on the team who will do fine in the cold.
 
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Unless we move to actual home games, it would be a tough draw. While I get that Buckeye fans would fill stadiums in shitty weather, that's not true of a lot of teams.

I dont find that a compelling argument to give SEC, Little10, and SoCal permanent advantages. If their fans dont travel... sounds like a personal problem to me.

So what seems to be the crux of this question is the analysis of how much the cold weather preparedness - I dunno - detracts from your warm weather performance abilities.

I think thats short sighted. Teams gain advantages being close to home... familiar places, ease of access, timezone changes. The weather is one part.
Playing in 'your weather' is both an advantage to you and a disadvantage to the traveling opponent. Why shouldn't Big schools enjoy that occasional advantage after decades of 1sided affairs?
Why shouldn't we get to see Miami struggle with some adversity for once?
 
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