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BII/SGN Clarification -- Open Letter (Merged)

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no doubt, could you just fly off the fucking handle already. i got to go in to work early tomorrow and i need the roid rage tonight. if you want to make money off the net you need to get used to giving the people what they want to hear. practice up bitch. roid rage now.
 
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BrutusMaximus said:
Yeeesss......I can FEEL your anger. Let your hate flow through you.
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This has grown to the point that I have to say something...I am not the type to disagree with anyones internet opinion...Most of you know that from my posting history.

In all fairness to Alan, (who I never knew as Dihard). He has been and was very worried about this exact falling out. I even predicted it when I got absoloutely no response from anyone here when I asked around for help to "customize" the said software.

The new site was never planned to be like Buckeyeplanet. Everyone involved in the project loves BP. If ANYONE thinks we created a website to "leech" off the community of BP they would be mistaken. We are smart enough to know BP was created from a fallout from BN. These people or the community at BP will not be fiscally supporting a premium website. That is why there is a BP...

It would have been nice to be able to share some of my stories with the friends I have made on this site. They are the reason I began this "work" to begin with....
 
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Loyd, Josh, Greg, and especially you Alan, you have all disappointed me and you all know why. If not Loyd, I'm sure you'll have a dream about it. I thought you guys would have acted, done, and represented your site, Sunshinepreps, maxemfinger, and all other sites that you are affiliated with better... but so far you have let all of us Buckeye fans down and as far as I'm concerned you have let all of your partner sites down. Great Job, way to promote your site... Keep it up!

I guess the old saying is true. "Bad is good publicity"
 
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Sunshinepreps, Max Emfinger
These guys are my personal friends. I really do not know how you could say we let them down in any way, shape, or form... Sour grapes does not mean that I am being dishonest or misleading anyone. I just do not see where you get that from....

*edit* It is nice to see you threw my name in the mix after you saw I posted on this thread.... SMV, I do not even know you well enough to personally dissapoint you.
 
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ScarletInMyVeins said:
Loyd, Josh, Greg, and especially you Alan, you have all disappointed me and you all know why.
I don't blame nor harbor any hard feelings for Josh or Greg in this.

I see two guys who were presented an opportunity...and followed their dreams. Josh is still in an active role here and hopefully Greg will still participate as time permits.

I always trust people until I given a reason not to do so...thus far, neither of these guys have given me any reason whatsoever. In fact, I think this entire situation would have been much easier if one of them was calling the shots.

As I stated before, I think these two have obvious talent...moreso, they are two honest and loyal people whom I respect greatly.
 
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I should clarify a couple of things:

1) Yes I am taking photography for SGN. It is a dream of mine that is being realized, and something I have never pursued before.

2) My loyalties to BP have NOT changed. I still have been working with the admins on a number of plans, and still have big dreams of my own for innovations to the graphic forum once the new server is up. The graphic forum has been a realization of some of my dreams for BP and is still in its infancy.

3) My graphic work has not gravitated to SGN. I'd like to think that myself, LRA, crzy..., DA-Bucks, Oiler, and the rest of the artists have created an unmatched wealth of custom OSU graphics in a user-friendly format (soon to become easier with the new server).

4) I will be posting my best photos from my shoots on BP, and linking to the articles on SGN. Alan is glad to let me keep all of my photos free so that I can link to them from BP.

The point is that I love BuckeyePlanet. It exists without me, but I have tried to contribute everything I can to it. The t-shirt fundraiser, the wallpapers and everything else were not ploys to gain your trust and thrust SGN onto you later.

I see how it seemed like I was promoting SGN but honestly I was just excited about this new opportunity to explore my talents, much like Greg, and I jumped at it.
 
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BIATCHabutuka said:
no doubt, could you just fly off the fucking handle already. i got to go in to work early tomorrow and i need the roid rage tonight. if you want to make money off the net you need to get used to giving the people what they want to hear. practice up bitch. roid rage now.
Let me tell you something BITCHinmytuna, the only reason that I haven't spoken my mind is because there are still people on this site who respect me for the image that I have built as Alan. Well, I just registered another personality and all fucking bets are off now asswipe!! "Practice up bitch"? Who in the hell do you think you are talking to? I will take COL99's rubber mallet and beat your sorry ass senseless with it. (You'll notice that I didn't say balls, which is what the rubber mallet was intended for. That's because you don't have any god damn balls. If you did, you would meet me in person. Tibor has my phone number. Call me. We'll set something up. I may have to rearrange my schedule a little, with football camp and all, and then there is a band camp that I will be covering later, and I have to....oh, well anyway...I will beat your ass down whenever we can come up with a good day) I will have Jwinslow take pictures of the beating. I will even have Lloydsev document the whole thing blow by blow on my website at http://www.scarletandgraynews.com/
I guaran-god-damn-double-tee you that you do NOT want to fuck with me.
 
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Highstreet said:
They are the reason I began this "work" to begin with....

[/Disclaimer: Drunk]

HS I appreciate what you did here, no doubt about that. But Alan approached me a while ago saying how this site was a "goldmine" and I told him then that the day this became a "job" (even though it is one I would immensely enjoy) is the day I quit. Not saying you guys are wrong, I hope you all become multi-millionaires, but the reasons for starting up an OSU related website shouldn't be about money IMO. Maybe this was the wrong time to voice my concerns (Not like anyone cares), but I have been drinking all day so here they are. I helped out with this website for 2 reasons: 1.) Clarity 2.) Love for OSU football and that is why I will remain here always. I understand where Clarity, 3yards, and Grad are coming from with that "kick in the gut stuff". I have spent a lot of hours doing what little I could around here and seeing someone start from where we worked so hard for and then improve on it is disheartening, to say the least, esp from "friends" (quotes only in there b/c of internetness).


p.s. Believe it or not good to see Nutty back.

p.s.s. VG cracked me up.

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Dihard II said:
Let me tell you something BITCHinmytuna, the only reason that I haven't spoken my mind is because there are still people on this site who respect me for the image that I have built as Alan. Well, I just registered another personality and all fucking bets are off now asswipe!! "Practice up bitch"? Who in the hell do you think you are talking to? I will take COL99's rubber mallet and beat your sorry ass senseless with it. (You'll notice that I didn't say balls, which is what the rubber mallet was intended for. That's because you don't have any god damn balls. If you did, you would meet me in person. Tibor has my phone number. Call me. We'll set something up. I may have to rearrange my schedule a little, with football camp and all, and then there is a band camp that I will be covering later, and I have to....oh, well anyway...I will beat your ass down whenever we can come up with a good day) I will have Jwinslow take pictures of the beating. I will even have Lloydsev document the whole thing blow by blow on my website at http://www.scarletandgraynews.com/
I guaran-god-damn-double-tee you that you do NOT want to fuck with me.
Nice one Tib's:wink2:
 
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Look, I don't know why Lloyd came over and stirred the pot today. I can't possibly think of a reason why he would, what he stood to gain from that, how he thought it would help -- but it's clearly taken this situation from a relatively healthy and reasonable place, and reduced it to something less so.

I have no problem whatsoever with Josh and Greg, no reason to have any problems with them. Both have been terrific and active members of the BP community, and I hope they will stay that way no matter where they go or what they do. If this situation leaves them feeling like they aren't part of, and/or can't relate to or participate in BP, I think that's a loss, based on my take on this situation.

In regards to Alan, I don't know what's new today that wasn't already out there a few days ago. I received an on-topic PM from him explaining that the way SGN was launched was a combination of being out of his control, and a product of everything being all new and foreign to him. He says he regrets SGN not being what he had originally said he hoped it to be, and I heard that. The point I made in response to him is that this is more or less a dead issue to me. I made some lines in the sand that I said I hope they wouldn't cross, he assured me they wouldn't, and that was enough.

I said earlier that I don't feel any differently now than I did yesterday or a few days ago on the issue, and that's true. I wish (as Alan says he does) that things had happened differently so that we might avoid all of this, but it's done and over with, and now I'm focused entirely on the machine that is on a truck somewhere between here and Arizona. I am fully focused on what needs to be done to move BP over to that machine, the changes I intend to make, the excitement of all of that, etc. What I'm saying is that, for me personally, this is all old news. Alan asked if there were a truce between us, and the point I made was that not only had I never gone to war, but that I was trying to avoid drama and indicate my general support for a new Buckeye site within the community. Which is to say that there was no need for a truce, not from where I'm sitting.

To close this off, I will say that my availability and ability to focus on any of this is dipping again, and will bottom out over the next few days as I deal with some real-world-heavy issues over here. I appreciate the support people have expressed in this thread, both for me personally, and *certainly* that expressed in so many ways for BP.

This is the offseason, the expectations for the 2005 season are intense, we're all starting to get excited. Anyway, I need to run, not sure what else to cover here, but if I think of something, I'll add it when I can.
 
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Hubs,

Thank you for the kind thoughts. I cannot speak for Alan, but the reason I do anything OSU related to begin with was out of love for the program and BP. I have made a grand total of 10 dollars since I started putting together stories (offset that with shipping vids and I am in the hole about 250 bucks....) There are many people complaining in this thread that have no grasp of the situation.
 
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