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Big Ten Network (BTN)

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Option 1 - Go to any good sports bar and they will have BTN - Eat, drink and be merry in the company of fellow Buckeyes. Phone ahead, ask the manager!
Option 2 - Go to a friend's house who has DirecTV - Eat drink and be merry in the company of fellow Buckeyes.
Option 3 - Go to the stadium, get a ticket. Hiney Gate - Eat drink and be merry in the company of fellow Buckeyes.
OR
Option 4 - Ask what to do on an internet message board. (Bad Idea)
 
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this is nothing more than the continued commercialization of college athletics. programs were founded to keep young men in shape post ww1 for the next big war. now its pay per view for broadcast fine, heck not long ago only 2 or so games even were on tv. either pay our shut up. heck im not going to lie it turns me off to college athletics to about the same level that people complaining that the kids should get paid, they get tuition and are stipend, not long ago kids paid their entire way and no athlete got a scholarship.

you have two options:
pay the bill and get btn or stfu and put make the choice with your wallet and say no.

personally i dont know what i am going to do this year since i dont have tickets. part of me though is feeling apathetic and i may not go anywhere to watch the games, but time will tell.
 
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Thump;908179; said:
Soldiers are dying in Iraq and I'm supposed to feel sorry for your unimaginable plight?
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Unlike the poster this was intended for, I totally agree with your comment. Whining about this stuff is....silly.

I'm no fan of BTN, DTV, cable, or any of it, but whining about this stuff is pathetic.
 
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no see two issues here.

1 it wasnt long ago when you saw the bucks on tv 2 times are year, and hell go back to the 90s and a couple of games wouldnt be on tv each year.

2 you can see every game if you want. cancel your time warner account and get direct tv.

you have options, people just refuse to act. big people act, little people react...
 
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Frustration is very understandable.

Asking questions that a read of the thread (or a search of the thread) would answer is what really spurred the recent badinage.

And as for BTN taking the fans hostage, isn't it the case that it takes two to dance that tango? TW or Comcast could have had this deal rolled up and smoked with BTN weeks ago.
 
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this is nothing more than the continued commercialization of college athletics. programs were founded to keep young men in shape post ww1 for the next big war. now its pay per view for broadcast fine, heck not long ago only 2 or so games even were on tv. either pay our shut up. heck im not going to lie it turns me off to college athletics to about the same level that people complaining that the kids should get paid, they get tuition and are stipend, not long ago kids paid their entire way and no athlete got a scholarship.

you have two options:
pay the bill and get btn or stfu and put make the choice with your wallet and say no.
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Great post.

Things is a changin' - and nobody likes change. But it IS just football and it IS all about money. And you better get used to it.

With the merging of the Internet and TV distribution mechanisms for tv programs are going to change much the way they have for music.

Used to be the networks had considerable leverage over the college teams they were exploiting. There were limited networks and limited distribution capabilities. Now - not so much. With the money that is on the table these days every conference can afford to package and distribute its own product and there is no reason to expect them not to.

I can see myself paying a subscription down the road for either OSU or Big Ten football. But will it stop there? How long before Michigan and OSU decide that they are tired of subsidizing NU and IU? And again, why should they? None of the 10 Commandments address the issue in my Bible.

And how long before I have to decide if I want to subscribe to the SEC network if I want to see Florida vs Georgia or LSU vs Tenn?

Heck, it is even moving to HS where OHSAA is putting together a package of televised sports. Think the NCAA has a hard time managing corruption? Wait till big money (at least relatively "big money") starts flowing into HS coffers. (And how long before Massillon asks why they are subsidizing Teays Valley?)


Human nature (i.e. greed, incompetence and a lust for power - the very same lust for power that brings you to your feet when Beanie crosses the goal line) remains the same. Just the technology is changing.

End rant.
 
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jimotis4heisman;908224; said:
no see two issues here.

1 it wasnt long ago when you saw the bucks on tv 2 times are year, and hell go back to the 90s and a couple of games wouldnt be on tv each year.

2 you can see every game if you want. cancel your time warner account and get direct tv.

you have options, people just refuse to act. big people act, little people react...
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I live in an apt complex like several hundred thouasand other Columbus residents...not an option...it would be a good one if I had a house that I was able to drill holes through, and run cables around

I did look into it here in Dublin at my apt, but the cost of repairing all the damages wasn't feasable, plus I would of had to get approval from at least 2 neighbors about stapling cords up their resdience to get DTV into my second floor apt....sorry for the crying

As for canceling Time Warner to prove a point, I'd rather not, b/c I still enjoy watching football so as goes w/ my dislike of ESPN, I'll continue to watch b/c having no access at all isn't a real option...again sorry for the crying

Truthfully, the best option for me would be if Time Warner and the BTN came to a decesion that would allow me to watch the game from home....Shockingly, they have this ability but are having a pissing match to see which side will be hurt the most

So yes, in the end I'll live, and I'd rather be on my couch NOT watching the Bucks than losing my life in the Iraq war, and I can watch the highlights and listen to Mark May give ridiculous insight as to why our D is overrated as I watch those highlights.........but I'd rather just watch the game for myself
 
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Oh8ch raises (parenthetically) one of the stalking horses of this whole PPV / Subscriber Conference Networks issue.
It isn't just the upstart BTN, it is all the copycats that follow which the cable companies and others are sharpening their pencils to keep the deals light for them.
Imagine -- all the major conferences are looking at this BTN develop and see how much financial clout they develop. In effect BTN is pricing the market for the PAc 10, the Big 12, the SEC and so on.
Say the following transpires --
Inside the 8-state region BTN commands the sum of $1.10 per subscriber and it all goes on basic tier like they wish.
Outside the 8-state footprint the fee becomes $0.10 or less per subscriber.
Now as SECTV, Pac10TV, etc, etc jump in on the act they can command a diminished or ratcheted ratio of what the BTN charges.

Given that there are a total of six major networks catering to the big BCS conferences - plus the one and only ND network (NBC). The likely addition to the carriers bill per region is now $1.10 + 5 * 0.10 per subscriber. (Though they will likely ask a premium for out of conference area subscribers to view say the SEC, this is a simple treatment). So $1.60 per household for all the BCS big guns.
For the remaining conferences maybe we end up with a total of another 30c to carry their offerings - should they dare to invest in the plan, or maybe less if the small conferences aggregate their distributional rights.
It could easily come close to $2.00 per household effective cost.

Which is still less than what Comcast charges, in aggregate, for their highly localized sports packages with weaker attraction to a narrower geographic area.
 
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Assuming TW and COMCAST don't cut a deal, has anyone heard anything about replays?

As a season ticket holder I don't have a dog in the fight till bball season. But I would like to replay the games.

Can you feel my pain?
 
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CleveBucks;908267; said:
Wake up Martin Waymire Advocacy Communications! (Comcast hired site posing as BT fan) - Page 3 - SpartanTailgate.com - Michigan State Spartans Forums

I wonder if David will apologize to BP for having to put up with his employees' spamming...

If Comcast has to resort to this, you know they're getting desperate.
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You might want to go back to page 38 of this thread. There were some pretty good posts, without all the emotion. It looks like the Comcast payroll extends beyond the Big Ten Region for these "paid" posters TurtleSportsReport.com Forums The poster at the very bottom calls the paid poster out. They changed their tactic a little this time, due to being out of the big ten region. I still can't believe the idiots are protesting a 10 cent charge, out of the region. This guy wanted them to get on a petition.
 
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Oh8ch;908301; said:
Assuming TW and COMCAST don't cut a deal, has anyone heard anything about replays?

As a season ticket holder I don't have a dog in the fight till bball season. But I would like to replay the games.

Can you feel my pain?
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As Buckeyefool would say......Waaaaaa!!!!!!!....if you want to be able to replay the games just get DTV and DVR it no matter your situation and stop crying......Waaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!

Sorry Oh8ch, I had to get it out of my system

But to answer your question, I highly doubt it...if an agreement isn't reached, BTN isn't going to give up rights to its' games so TW or Comcast can re-broadcast them....JMO though
 
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what sucks is that the big ten network has so far dropped the ball with providing webcasts of the games. now that would be a moneymaker. they could charge a fair amount for a day or season pass. there is a lot of money there. it just goes to show how the big ten network was thrown together at the last second.

11th hour contracts and no webcasts. yeah, they have their stuff together. :roll1:

one would think that webcasts (with a fee) would be rather easy to do.
 
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