Big Ten expansion poll: 2013 Edition

[VBSJ]

It's actually comical that some fan bases -- not Ohio State's -- are holding the words of some friggin West Virginia blogger as the gospel on conference realignment/expansion.

 

[Muck]

The rule concering conference championship games is part of the rule allowing a 13th game. Among other exceptions, the rule states that a thirteenth game can be a conference championship game between division champions if the conference has a at least 12 members in the conference, at least 6 members in each division, and a round robin schedule within each division. Theoretically, your idea is legal if all the other criteria were met. However, bigdog3000's three division idea wouldn't work because there would only be 5 teams in each division, and the championship game would not always be between division winners.

IronBuck nailed it.

It's actually comical that some fan bases -- not Ohio State's -- are holding the words of some friggin West Virginia blogger as the gospel on conference realignment/expansion.

Most WVU fans actually roll their eyes (or worse) when it comes to The Dude, Mhver etc.

 

[BIATCHabutuka]

Without UNC I don't think we will expand anytime soon.

I think we do pick up UNC and UVA and pause there for quite some time.

I think UVA will surpass V Tech in football and hoops once they gear up with our conference money and exposure.

I voted just those two but would move on to GTech and then either FSU or Miami next. If both wanted in I'd take both and then even out with Duke or Kansas and then stop.

 

[Piney]

It's actually comical that some fan bases -- not Ohio State's -- are holding the words of some friggin West Virginia blogger as the gospel on conference realignment/expansion.

Like I said earlier I think in the other expansion thread... And the scary part... or interesting part is 'the dude' basically admits that one of his main sources is from admins (Gee's office) at Ohio State.

 

[Woody1968]

It's actually comical that some fan bases -- not Ohio State's -- are holding the words of some friggin West Virginia blogger as the gospel on conference realignment/expansion.

I don't think he's saying anything other than what most people already know/suspect, it is just that he is always insisting that it is coming in the next day or two, and claiming that he has inside sources (doubtful). If anything, I am more amused by the people who continually argue with him and claim that the ACC is not a target for expansion by the SEC and B1G.

 

[Muck]

Personally I'm enjoying the talk over there (and on at least one other BXII board) arguing that being stuck with UCF & USF would actually be a great move for them.

....Or how ala carte cable will destroy the B1G & the BXII will rise up on the backs of future power-houses Baylor & KSU.

....Or how Baylor, TCU, KSU, Tech & ISU are actually more valuable than anyone in the ACC not named FSU (and maybe the 'Noles too).

 

[VBSJ]

....Or how ala carte cable will destroy the B1G & the BXII will rise up on the backs of future power-houses Baylor & KSU..

The a la carte thing is where I'm kinda torn, because I keep thinking someone like FOX or ESPN or someone would bribe or ensure that never happens. But on the other hand, consumers might start speaking with their wallets and force a change.

Either way, I'm going to guess that Jim Delany and/or Mike Slive/Larry Scott have some sort of plan to combat that (most likely putting more high-profile games on their conference networks).

 

[Muck]

The a la carte thing is where I'm kinda torn, because I keep thinking someone like FOX or ESPN or someone would bribe or ensure that never happens. But on the other hand, consumers might start speaking with their wallets and force a change.

Either way, I'm going to guess that Jim Delany and/or Mike Slive/Larry Scott have some sort of plan to combat that (most likely putting more high-profile games on their conference networks).

I'm not worried:

1. Loh specifically talked about how he was blown away by the conference plans regarding alternate delivery methods (net, mobile etc).

2. The massive (and unexpected) jumps in ad revenue on the BTN shows that the network is generating eyeballs.

3. Ohio State, TSUN, Nebraska & PSU will still generate more interest than the top 5-6 programs in any conference not named SEC.

 

[VBSJ]

2. The massive (and unexpected) jumps in ad revenue on the BTN shows that the network is generating eyeballs.

I don't know what you're talking about:

Ro-Tel and Wolf Brand Chili are bigger than Best Buy and Buick

Kidding, the advertisers are getting better and I'm going to guess Under Armour signs on in 2014 with BTN (in some way).

 

[Piney]

The a la carte thing is where I'm kinda torn, because I keep thinking someone like FOX or ESPN or someone would bribe or ensure that never happens. But on the other hand, consumers might start speaking with their wallets and force a change.

Either way, I'm going to guess that Jim Delany and/or Mike Slive/Larry Scott have some sort of plan to combat that (most likely putting more high-profile games on their conference networks).

I think a la carte is always fun to dream about, but I think it is impractical unless you only watch a set amount of channels. Because if you do watch alot of channels the price that would be charged per channel will end up being the same as a regular cable bill plus you won't get all the channels.

Now eventually something like a la carte will exist, but that won't happen until the majority of TV households move to a more on-demand online setup (while it is a growing segment, it will take 25+ years for there to be a majority of TV households)

 

[LovelandBuckeye]

Personally I'm enjoying the talk over there (and on at least one other BXII board) arguing that being stuck with UCF & USF would actually be a great move for them.

....Or how ala carte cable will destroy the B1G & the BXII will rise up on the backs of future power-houses Baylor & KSU.

....Or how Baylor, TCU, KSU, Tech & ISU are actually more valuable than anyone in the ACC not named FSU (and maybe the 'Noles too).

Holy crap! I need these links. I need some laughs today.

 

[BigWoof31]

....Or how Baylor, TCU, KSU, Tech & ISU are actually more valuable than anyone in the ACC not named FSU (and maybe the 'Noles too).

Baylor does get points for having an awesome new stadium:

 

[cincibuck]

I can see all sorts of reasons why Notre Dame should join the conference, reasons their faculty and administration readily grasp, especially as grad school, research measurements become more public. It ain't easy being the liberal arts school these days - want proof? - look at the research $$$ pulled in by IU and compare that with what Purdue brings in, then look at the endowment fund for both schools.

But the fans and the AD are against it. They like the idea that they get to name the announcer's for their NATIONALLY telecast home games - ask Chris Collinsworth how and why that is. That they don't have to share revenue or take the fuzzy side of the lollipop in TV game time slots - they play when they want to play.

I'm one of those who watches their games only in the hope of seeing them lose, but you have to admit they are a real draw.

Texas has just never made any sense to me as part of Big Ten and I can just imagine the shit storm that would arise as soon as the Big Ten faculty council saw photos of the Quad surrounded by statues of Confederate Generals.

 

[Muck]

Holy crap! I need these links. I need some laughs today.

The 500+ page long conference realignment thread on ShaggyBevo & various threads in the 'Big 12 Conference Talk forum on the WVU Scout board.

Baylor does get points for having an awesome new stadium:

Sure and other BXII schools are also heavily investing in their athletic teams...but guess what? So is everybody else. Minnefreakinsota just built a new stadium for Marge Gundarson's sake.

BTW have you ever been to Waco? That water is actually brown as a septic tank. lol

Texas has just never made any sense to me as part of Big Ten and I can just imagine the shit storm that would arise as soon as the Big Ten faculty council saw photos of the Quad surrounded by statues of Confederate Generals.

Meh UT Austin is sufficiently left wing for most of the conference. Sure they're not card carrying Trotskyites like up at the Wisconsin St. Petersburg campus but they're arguably middle of the pack ideologically when compared to the B1G as a whole.

The big problem with Texas is distance, the 'need' to bring a posse & their inability to play well with others.

 

[cincibuck]

Baylor does get points for having an awesome new stadium:

And right after the game we'll walk the whole crowd down to the river 'n' Baptize 'em all