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Big Ten Conference Divisions

MaxBuck;1833299; said:
I think the new logo's just fine.
Of course you do :lol: You like almost every design that BPers dislike.
Was Stauf's out of decaf this morning?
Why? Were the BTN execs too strung out to properly analyze a logo brand?

There is nothing good about it. The negative space is as dominant as the words. Contrast that with the refined, subtle lines used in the Pac-10 logo negative/ space.

The logo is unbalanced. The top letters look a lot bigger because of their font and surrounding choices.

It is incredibly busy. There are so many diffent heights, widths, serif locations, and styles. The typography itself is very poor, the letters are very distracting and displeasing to the eye, let alone whether they make a good logo together.
 
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jwinslow;1833301; said:
Of course you do :lol: You like almost every design that BPers dislike.
Why? Were the BTN execs too strung out to properly analyze a logo brand?

There is nothing good about it. The negative space is as dominant as the words. Contrast that with the refined, subtle lines used in the Pac-10 logo negative/ space.

The logo is unbalanced. The top letters look a lot bigger because of their font and surrounding choices.

It is incredibly busy. There are so many diffent heights, widths, serif locations, and styles. The typography itself is very poor, the letters are very distracting and displeasing to the eye, let alone whether they make a good logo together.


Can't you just say, "it sucks"?
 
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I definitely didn't think that every award deserved to have a hyphenated award. I love the Grange-Griffin award, I am less enthused about Ameche-Dayne and the like.

I wonder if each school submitted a list of names that they had and the Big Ten picked the names who's family would be likely to accept and to balance off the schools. The fact that 2 Purdue QBs and 2 Wisconsin RBs are used for the QB and RB award respectively is kind of strange to me...

Out of ALL the great RBs in conference history, you go with Dayne or Ameche and then you can literally pick any other school's premier RB legend and that would be better.

Indiana- 2 award names
Illinois- 3
Purdue- 3
Minnesota- 3
Michigan- 4
Michigan State- 3
Northwestern- 2
Ohio State- 5
Penn State- 3
Nebraska- 1
Wisconsin- 4
Iowa- 2

Chicago- 1

The amount of balance on their award list is strictly contrived (not that it's a bad thing seeing as this is a conference of equality) but it is interesting considering that the competitive football balance really doesn't equate to that.

But this is just me reading too much into things.
 
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Diego-Bucks;1833309; said:
I definitely didn't think that every award deserved to have a hyphenated award. I love the Grange-Griffin award, I am less enthused about Ameche-Dayne and the like.

I wonder if each school submitted a list of names that they had and the Big Ten picked the names who's family would be likely to accept and to balance off the schools. The fact that 2 Purdue QBs and 2 Wisconsin RBs are used for the QB and RB award respectively is kind of strange to me...

Out of ALL the great RBs in conference history, you go with Dayne or Ameche and then you can literally pick any other school's premier RB legend and that would be better.

Indiana- 2 award names
Illinois- 3
Purdue- 3
Minnesota- 3
Michigan- 4
Michigan State- 3
Northwestern- 2
Ohio State- 5
Penn State- 3
Nebraska- 1
Wisconsin- 4
Iowa- 2

Chicago- 1

The amount of balance on their award list is strictly contrived (not that it's a bad thing seeing as this is a conference of equality) but it is interesting considering that the competitive football balance really doesn't equate to that.

But this is just me reading too much into things.
in a current or historical perspective?
 
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[quote='BusNative;183330;4]Can't you just say, "it sucks"?[/quote]

Maybe it's the same logic they used with separating the teams into divisions and figuring out when the Ohio State-Michigan game was going to be held.

In that situation, they promoted the idea of moving The Game to the middle of the season and different divisions so no one would complain when they were just going to put them in different divisions for a possible rematch. Now they release a shitty logo so no one complains about the shitty division names. They never anticipated people bitching about both...
 
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jwinslow;1833301; said:
There is nothing good about it. The negative space is as dominant as the words. Contrast that with the refined, subtle lines used in the Pac-10 logo negative/ space.

The logo is unbalanced. The top letters look a lot bigger because of their font and surrounding choices.

It is incredibly busy. There are so many diffent heights, widths, serif locations, and styles. The typography itself is very poor, the letters are very distracting and displeasing to the eye, let alone whether they make a good logo together.

And Then There's The Color
 
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[quote='BusNative;183329;8]I don't mind the trophy names at all, there are a zillion legendary B10 players to choose from, and getting Eddie, Archie, Woody and Pace mentioned is great... but the damn legends and leaders shit is just awful... awfulawfulawful... I've been getting emails from buddies all morning making fun of the names, too[/quote]
The only thing I don't get is why they have players in here who never played Big10 football..
 
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Bleed S & G;1833317; said:
The only thing I don't get is why they have players in here who never played Big10 football..

Which players are those?

EDIT: I see Rimington, who played for Nebraska. Seeing as the Rimington Award recognizes the nation's outstanding center, the name has recongnition, along with the fact that the Rimington-Pace Offensive Lineman of the Year award will start being presented after Nebraska is in the conference.
 
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I think the logo is set up so that when we add 4 more teams it will look like B16 Ten. In any case, who really cares what they call the divisions in football. Just like when they changed our jerseys. It's all about the product on the field and winning games. The divisions could have the best names in the world, but if the teams suck then who cares. But if the teams are elite, then nobody is going to care about the name of the divisons.
 
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I'm sincerely hoping that this is merely a patch-job for the time between now and when the major expansions happen.

I don't hate the new logos, but I don't love them either.

I'm sure this wasn't a 10 second work-up either. Somebody somewhere did research and put these together, someone who's getting paid to do so, so I can't really say anything contrary. Legends/Leaders on the other hand is silly, gimmicky and in my opinion kind of lame. I would've been happier with Plains/Lakes even though geographically they wouldn't make much sense.

Oh well. The conference our team plays in is getting a major boost in revenue, relevance and prestige so I can't complain too much.
 
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