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Big Ten Conference Divisions

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jwinslow;1758422; said:
Not when they formed the conference. The power rankings then:

1. Nebraska
2. Kansas St
3. Texas A&M
4. Colorado (they dropped off in b12 year 2)
5. Texas
6. Oklahoma

Texas was only good in the 90s and just plain mediocre in the 80s. Oklahoma was the opposite (mediocre in 90s, good not great in 80s).



The b12 should be a perfect example why you shouldn't mess with all-time rivalries when clearly you can't predict how divisions will play out. Maybe they could have seen Texas/OU rebounding, but who saw Nebraska becoming that bad after so much consistent greatness?
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And if you had a long term bet as to which schools would dominate that conference you would have chosen...?

Would you like to get in a three decade bet right now betting against OSU, Michigan, Penn State and Nebraska?

Look at the resources, look at the history.
 
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It was interesting to watch BTN last night as the announcers all spouted the party line on how great this is. Truth is, that they probably weren't just spouting the party line and probably were sincerely geeked about how things will play out. But their level of "geeked" was over the top.

That said, the poll question about whether fans were happy with the divisions came out something like 68% positive. So while tOSU and TSUN fans may be boiling, it appears that most other fans like the splits.

Oh well, bring on Marshall.
 
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Q: Are the divisions football only or for all sports? How about the protected crossover rivalries?

I'm trying to wrap my head around why Indiana/Michigan St are paired up. Mens hoops, on the other hand ...
 
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Pulled from another forum; but, some pretty decent research (possibly someone cross-posting from research someone put in on BP?):

People keep saying wait until the first time OSU and Michigan meet in a conference championship game. NEWSFLASH: An Ohio State-Michigan rematch will be very rare and unlikely.

The SEC is 0-for-18 since 1992 in having protected, cross-division rivals in a Championship Game rematch.

The ACC is for 0-for-5 since 2005 in having Miami and Florida State in a Championship Game rematch.

The Big 12 is 1-for-14 since 1996 in having Oklahoma and Nebraska in a Championship Game rematch.

In short, college conference histories have indicated that Ohio State and Michigan will have a rematch about once every 37 Championship Games (and counting)."

Also, I looked up the big ten standing going all the way back to 1993. Assuming that we play an SEC or Big 12 style and that conference records determine championship game and not division records, lets look who the matchups would be:

1993 - Wisc v OSU
1994 - PSU v OSU
1995 - NW v OSU
1996 - NW v OSU
1997 - UM v OSU
1998 - Wisc v OSU
1999 - Wisc v UM
2000 - UM v NW
2001 - IL v UM
2002 - OSU v Iowa
2003 - UM v OSU
2004 - UM v Iowa
2005 - PSU v OSU
2006 - OSU v Wisc
2007 - OSU v IL
2008 - PSU v OSU
2009 - OSU v Iowa

So there you have it. Look up the conference standings. Here they are right here:

http://www.collegefootballpoll....standings.html

From 1993 through 2009, we would have only played each other in the conference championship game twice. And thats not even considering the impact Nebraska would have.
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Edit: tOSU in the CCG 13 out of 17 years ain't bad :biggrin:
 
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With Nebraska now in the picture i have to agree that OSU-scUM rematch will not happen very often. There will be years (like 2006) where it will indeed happen...that's just the nature of the game. But with another national contending team, in Nebraska, now in the B10, the chances of a rematch will be down.
 
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sflbuck;1758566; said:
Looking at this I am struck by how much of the new divisional set up has been done with an eye to future expansion. The current alignment begs for ND to be added to the scUM-Neb division and Rutgers to the OSU-PSU division. ND-Rutgers become intra division rivals and ND gets an game in the NYC area every other year.

Rinse and repeat for Missouri and Syracuse (or the Big East/ACC team of your choice)
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I'm almost sad to say I put in a good 30+ minutes of though about this last night and on the bright side they can almost eliminate the chance of a championship game rematch once they move to 16 teams if they set it up right (doubtful). The only problem is there is no way to get rid of the protected game and keep most of the big rivalries, which would be the only way you could have a rematch if everything is setup correctly.
I would go for 4 divisions with 4 teams per division. Every team in one division plays the 3 other teams in their division and all 4 teams in another division. The other division switches every year so you get to play home and away at every other school at least every 6 years. The championship game would go to the teams with the best record among the divisions that played each other. i.e. if A and B played and C and D played the team with the best record of A and B would play the team with the best record of C and D. This makes for 7 conference games a year with 1 extra protected game to protect rivalries.
 
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I don't understand why everyone is so pissed.
The Michigan game still matters.

I hate Michigan. We should destroy them. While it may or may not matter in terms of the Big Ten (depending on the formula used), a loss in that game that late in the season would remove us from a national championship possibility... So it matters.
 
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The advantage we have now is that giving them a loss as a CCG contender is far more devastating.

Hypothetical scenario:

Michigan has to win to get to the CCG. Being in the CCG should, theoretically, give one a good chance of making it to a BCS bowl even if you lose.

We beat Michigan, and another team makes it to the CCG instead. This way, Michigan has no chance of making it to a BCS bowl.

Doing it this way increases the likelihood that we drop them from a #2 spot to a #3 or even #4.
 
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The Associated Press: Big Ten gives Nebraska no breaks in 2011 schedule

Big Ten gives Nebraska no breaks in 2011 schedule
By ERIC OLSON (AP) ? 12 hours ago

OMAHA, Neb. ? The Big Ten's welcome gift to Nebraska looks more like a booby prize.

The football schedule for 2011-12, the Cornhuskers' first two seasons in the Big Ten, pits Nebraska against a lineup no sane coach would envy.

The Cornhuskers open the 2011 conference schedule at Wisconsin. They come home to play Ohio State, then it's off to Minnesota and home games against Michigan State and Northwestern.

Here comes the big finish: at Penn State, at Michigan and home against new border rival Iowa.

Conspicuously absent: Indiana, Illinois and Purdue, aka three of the four Big Ten teams that did not make a bowl last season.

Cont'd ...
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Welcome to the Big Ten!!!
 
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OSUScoonie12;1758642; said:
I gotta imagine in another year or two, the B10 will add 1-2 more members. In that case they will have to realign the divisions again, and maybe they will get it right 2nd time around.
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This is what I find interesting. This is only for the next 2 years. Almost like a trial period to see how this thing works out. And 2015 is the real deadline for all of this being set in stone for decades to come.

Expansion ISN'T OVER! Delaney said as much, they are just in a holding pattern and will decide again in December what they will do next. Then again this will be brought up around 2015 when the TV deals are up (if the Big 10 doesn't extend it when they rework it to include Nebraska & CCG) and when the Big 12 & Pac10 deals are up too.

So if by 2015 we are expanding to 16 this will all get shaken up again and maybe they see how they are wrecking the Game and will make the right decisions. This also gives us more data with how competition might work. Maybe Iowa & Wisconsin shows us they now have staying power and maybe Penn State falters after Joe Pa leaves and Michigan is back to being Michigan.

This is what is making me not blow a gasket at the moment, as I view this as a transition period and things can still be changed in a few years and correct any mistakes that are made before it ruins it.
 
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Wisconsin fans are pissed. They feel that they lost their rivalry with Iowa, got put in a harder division (from their perspective), and that the geography sucks for them.

Everyone else seems more or less okay with things.
 
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